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Author Topic: Alcan Dragon Boat Festival Post-Mortem  (Read 91397 times)
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« Reply #75 on: June 19, 2007, 01:56:44 PM »

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If you look at the race numbers the evens numbered races are together and the odds are together... this is so that each team has one race in a Gem and one in a BuK... that held true for all Saturday races if you raced a Gemini in the AM you raced a BuK in the afternoon and vice versa.

Really?  We ended up in Gemini's the entire weekend including the G&G.  We never got to set foot in a BuK.  Maybe next year.
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« Reply #76 on: June 19, 2007, 02:28:08 PM »

Yes, we also ended up in a Gemini in all races except 1 (including the G & G)  We made it work cuz what else are you gonna do?  However, it would have been nice to have had 2 and 2 ratio!
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« Reply #77 on: June 19, 2007, 02:50:56 PM »

Many teams ended up in Gemini only until the final or G&G.
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« Reply #78 on: June 19, 2007, 03:26:53 PM »

I guess I was lucky...3 out of 4 races in BuK's Very Happy
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« Reply #79 on: June 19, 2007, 03:32:05 PM »

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If you look at the race numbers the evens numbered races are together and the odds are together... this is so that each team has one race in a Gem and one in a BuK... that held true for all Saturday races if you raced a Gemini in the AM you raced a BuK in the afternoon and vice versa.

Really?  We ended up in Gemini's the entire weekend including the G&G.  We never got to set foot in a BuK.  Maybe next year.

If you raced in a Gemini on Saturday morning you should have raced in a Buk in the afternoon.  There were some special cases, for example the 16 winners all raced in Geminis in the afternoon.  Not much can be done with this as there were not enough competitive races on the Saturday to get them to race in a each type...we try to get everyone in each boat, sometimes it does not workout (all the rec teams should have either been in a Gemini/Buk or Buk/Buk races on Saturday).
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« Reply #80 on: June 19, 2007, 04:32:56 PM »

Both our teams had a BUK on Saturday morning and then Gemini's the rest of the time.  The only other time we got a BUK was open division finals and G&G, but just for the regular races, 1 BUK and 3 Gemini's.
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« Reply #81 on: June 19, 2007, 11:29:19 PM »

Alcan has the best competition on the west coast.  A lot of top-calibre out of town teams help make this race what it is.  For COMP A-D, 53% of the teams were from out of town.  Thanks to all the crews from Calgary, Toronto, NY, LA, SF, Portland, Pemberton, Seattle, Vancouver Island and Interior BC for supporting this race and making it exciting.

COMP A
4/8 were out of town

COMP B
4/8 were out of town

COMP C
5/8 were out of town

COMP D
4/8 were out of town

REC A
3/8 were out of town

DCH NY surprised many.  It was impressive watching DCH demonstrate high-kneel.  I think they're racing in Asia, and wanted to use Alcan as practice for the Asian races.  Did anyone catch this on video?

Lincoln Mustangs from SF was also exciting to watch.  They nearly took top spot from Laoyam Eagles in the Junior division. 

The race grid seemed to work well.  Each division had very exciting and close races.  There were maybe 1 or 2 races where the top finisher seemed out of place.  Schedule delays do occur.  Gorging and Portland had to forfeit because the G&G was running way behind.

Too bad it wasn't sunny.  That would've made the weekend perfect.  I wonder which out of town team brought the rain with them.   Very Happy
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« Reply #82 on: June 20, 2007, 07:26:45 AM »

Alcan has the best competition on the west coast.  A lot of top-calibre out of town teams help make this race what it is.  For COMP A-D, 53% of the teams were from out of town.  Thanks to all the crews from Calgary, Toronto, NY, LA, SF, Portland, Pemberton, Seattle, Vancouver Island and Interior BC for supporting this race and making it exciting.

Out of towners makes it a more exciting event IMO. We should do more to bring more eastern crews over.

DCH NY surprised many.  It was impressive watching DCH demonstrate high-kneel.  I think they're racing in Asia, and wanted to use Alcan as practice for the Asian races.  Did anyone catch this on video?


DCH did better than most thought they would. I saw the A final and it didn't look like the high-kneel helped them, it actually slowed their boat down quite a bit. I would guess they lost 2-3 secs.  They are going to Asia either this year or the following year.



Lincoln Mustangs from SF was also exciting to watch.  They nearly took top spot from Laoyam Eagles in the Junior division. 

The race grid seemed to work well.  Each division had very exciting and close races.  There were maybe 1 or 2 races where the top finisher seemed out of place.  Schedule delays do occur.  Gorging and Portland had to forfeit because the G&G was running way behind.

Too bad it wasn't sunny.  That would've made the weekend perfect.  I wonder which out of town team brought the rain with them.   Very Happy


If we could get more out of town juniors to the event, it would be make ALCAN the premeir event in North America.

Race Grid worked in most part, scheduling of the G&G needs to be relooked. Now if we can only do something about the weather.
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« Reply #83 on: June 20, 2007, 08:34:17 AM »

Lincoln Mustangs from SF was also exciting to watch.  They nearly took top spot from Laoyam Eagles in the Junior division. 


Absolutely, they nearly upset.
Photo finish in Junior A Final...


Lane 5 - Laoyam Eagles
Lane 4 - Lincoln Mustangs


Look at the difference between Lincoln Mustangs and 3rd place...
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« Reply #84 on: June 20, 2007, 09:03:35 AM »

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If you look at the race numbers the evens numbered races are together and the odds are together... this is so that each team has one race in a Gem and one in a BuK... that held true for all Saturday races if you raced a Gemini in the AM you raced a BuK in the afternoon and vice versa.



Actually this is not quite correct.  We did not race in the BuK at all this weekend.  All 4 of our races were done in the Gem's.  At least it gave us a few more races to get used to them.

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« Reply #85 on: June 20, 2007, 12:55:51 PM »

I thought the people in Vancouver put on a fantastic weekend, very impressive especially considering the 173 teams involved (about 3500 paddlers).  Given the scale and complexity of the operation, it is very difficult to complain about an event that ran essentially on time (other than the G&G), with very few hiccups.
The Geminis are crappy boats to paddle in, but we raced in them 4 out of 5 races and won our comp final and the G&G race in a Gem, despite never having been in one previously, so I guess the disadvantage was the same for everybody.
Can't wait to return to False Creek next year!  Thanks to all the organizers and volunteers and a special shout out to Puppy and Jason for stepping up and steering for CRC.
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« Reply #86 on: June 20, 2007, 01:27:16 PM »

no matter how often you paddle in the Geminis, you'll forever be hating them.  there is no such thing as "getting used to them".  they're a great boat to level the playing field.   Confused
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« Reply #87 on: June 20, 2007, 01:29:15 PM »

G &G

i think the delays were, womens beforehand contained many paddlers for mixed, then the whole teams being carded for worlds in calgary, plus the queen of diamonds coming back to port.

Either they cut some specialty races or lower the maximum number of teams... that is if you want the sunday races to end early...

i think the early marshalling was due to pa system going down repeatedely in racers village.

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« Reply #88 on: June 20, 2007, 01:47:29 PM »

actually, they can keep the specialty races, just move the women's 2000 to saturday afternoon instead of right before the GG.  that way, they'll not be exhausted from doing two 2000m races in a row.
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« Reply #89 on: June 20, 2007, 02:57:18 PM »

How about actually having a G&G race all weekend, prior to Alcan......or after Alcan.....

You must admit, the G&G does have it's own racing appeal......
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