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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2010, 07:00:55 PM »

Don't forget about the Phish. They should be in the mix.

Also look out for the Topmade Bouys, we are a combo of FCRCC HP paddlers, and outrigger paddlers as well as a few from Jericho. Let's see how we blend together though.  We haven't practiced together, and don't know how we will handle the D2s. 

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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2010, 07:56:07 PM »

Hi everyone,

Starbucks Waverunners are not attending Kelowna this year.  I just wanted to make sure there is no confusion with us and the Kelowna Festival registered Waverunner team.

Kai
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2010, 09:07:06 PM »

Based on all the updates, re: Waverunners, EDBRC  & Topmade Fusion, I'm changing my predictions:

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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2010, 10:05:02 PM »

Don't forget about the Phish. They should be in the mix.

Also look out for the Topmade Bouys, we are a combo of FCRCC HP paddlers, and outrigger paddlers as well as a few from Jericho. Let's see how we blend together though.  We haven't practiced together, and don't know how we will handle the D2s. 



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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2010, 10:57:55 PM »

^ LOL, damn ringers indeed!  Very Happy
a dark horse for sure haha

I believe the waverunners is actually calgary waverunners if i'm not mistaken.
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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2010, 11:58:00 PM »

New Version 3 race grid available.  Check with your team managers for final versions.

Version 3 Kelowna Race Grid
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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2010, 07:55:03 AM »

It looks like they're doing advancements based on time not placement so seeding doesn't really matter.
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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2010, 07:57:29 AM »

Based on all the updates, re: Waverunners, EDBRC  & Topmade Fusion, I'm changing my predictions:

1. DH Magnum
2. TopMade Fusion
3. DH Ultimate
4. EDBRC
5. Navy


Do you mean Topmade Buoys instead of Topmade Fusion?
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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2010, 10:36:12 AM »

Yep... 3rd 4th times a charm.

1. DH Magnum
2. DH Ultimate
3. EDBRC
4. Navy
5. RGL

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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2010, 01:47:50 PM »

Are they doing advancements based on time? If so they could put similar teams against each other in the seeding heats to make the Saturday races closer. What's the point of putting Magnum and Partners Paddling for Patients in the same heat if you don't need to.
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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2010, 02:19:32 PM »

they are on time, but the wind and waves can skew things.  I remember Navy having a really slow 2nd heat last year because of winds
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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2010, 03:08:13 PM »

they are on time, but the wind and waves can skew things.  I remember Navy having a really slow 2nd heat last year because of winds
That's another reason to group similar teams when time is used for advancements. If you spread the top 10 teams across the 10 heats then conditions can change. Put the top teams in the same heats. You don't have to put 1, 2, 3, 4 together but don't put 1 against 40 either. Mix it up, be creative. Put all the corporate teams together, all the local teams together, the island teams, 1 vs 4 vs 8 vs 12, or random, or whatever. Since time is used it doesn't matter who you race.
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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2010, 03:41:26 PM »

I agree.  It makes the preliminary races more fun and probably fairer for the racers, as well it should generate closer races which is more fun for the spectators.

If they are going to go to the trouble of seeding (it appears they have), and use time for advancements, then they should have teams who are seeded closely together race together.

They should then also use time for advancements from the morning prelim's.  That way if a team outperformed it's seeding in the morning (based on time) they would have a chance to prove it was valid in the afternoon by now racing against teams they had a similar time in the morning as.
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« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2010, 04:54:57 PM »

I agree.  It makes the preliminary races more fun and probably fairer for the racers, as well it should generate closer races which is more fun for the spectators.

If they are going to go to the trouble of seeding (it appears they have), and use time for advancements, then they should have teams who are seeded closely together race together.

They should then also use time for advancements from the morning prelim's.  That way if a team outperformed it's seeding in the morning (based on time) they would have a chance to prove it was valid in the afternoon by now racing against teams they had a similar time in the morning as.

I see that they are kind of doing this for the second race, the 1st place teams race each other, the 2nd place teams race each other etc.  Those should be good races.
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« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2010, 10:13:44 PM »

It looks like the first heat is to classify the teams.  There is some ranking but Kelowna bound teams are famous for picking up paddlers so the existing "rankings" are not necessarily valid. 

Look at Topmade Buoys, based on comments on this site, yet they do not appear to be highly ranked on the race grid (never raced so how can you rank a team like that).  The afternoon races should be good and Sunday is when the real fun begins.

I think you are a mistaken with Navy as they made the Platinum semis so your comment is a bit unusual as Platinum is the top division.  They came up short in the semis as they were the slowest 3rd (Crew Yahoo was faster).  Seems like they did not have a good race on Sunday morning and that cost them not the "wind" on Saturday.
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