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[Colossus]

that potential flipping of the bird could potentially be a hand signal to the drummer to coordinate a call during the race...   

[BernMan]

Being the guy who was responsible for lanes 1 through 3 I was not directly behind lane 5. But I did not notice anything vulgar with Henry's hand. I did see it up in the air but did not notice anything unusual with it. In fact it seemed to me that it was a hand gesture like one that waves sort of either frantically or just puts a hand up to acknowledge that they have been spoken to.

[Garbage Miles]

That flip of the finger is good enough to make Big Bird proud.  And maybe ... Magnum did so well in that race because Magnum's boat was getting pulled along with Gorging.  Who knows . . . 

[mandachan]

Hm if I look closely it doesn't seem like a wave of acknowledgement. If he had acknowledged the efforts of the coachboat he might have corrected it right away instead of have them call on GH a few more times.

He does it twice, at :37 and :57, yet there were still paddles clashing. He had quite a lot of control of that boat, since he was steering with one hand so confidently while raising the other hand. It seems like he knew what he was doing.

Regardless, good race all teams... lets hope it doesn't happen too often in the future 

[NFW]

No, i dont think that it affected what division our team ended up in, so i will chalk it up to race experience.
I think the issue i have with this is the fact that he has a clear disregard towards the race officials and to the other teams racing with them.
Honestly, what an ass. So whether it was 10 warnings or 13 warnings, He needs a set of hearing aids all the same. I'll be sure to tell him so if i see him in Victoria. Shoot, maybe he wouldn't be able to hear me then either.

As for my paddle, its bound to get wear and tear anyways, so battle scars indeed. (fyi, i didnt name my paddle lol)

I'll consider the hug when i see my steersperson lol. Thank god he's actually competent.

That flip of the finger is good enough to make Big Bird proud.  And maybe ... Magnum did so well in that race because Magnum's boat was getting pulled along with Gorging.  Who knows . . . 

Holy moly you're right, maybe my team did so well because we were pulled with Gorging...Its called wash riding is it?

Maybe Gorging does so well in other races because they get in other boat's lanes and get pulled along with other better teams. Who knows...

[Colossus]

No, i dont think that it affected what division our team ended up in, so i will chalk it up to race experience.
I think the issue i have with this is the fact that he has a clear disregard towards the race officials and to the other teams racing with them.
Honestly, what an ass. So whether it was 10 warnings or 13 warnings, He needs a set of hearing aids all the same. I'll be sure to tell him so if i see him in Victoria. Shoot, maybe he wouldn't be able to hear me then either.

As for my paddle, its bound to get wear and tear anyways, so battle scars indeed. (fyi, i didnt name my paddle lol)

I'll consider the hug when i see my steersperson lol. Thank god he's actually competent.

That flip of the finger is good enough to make Big Bird proud.  And maybe ... Magnum did so well in that race because Magnum's boat was getting pulled along with Gorging.  Who knows . . . 

Holy moly you're right, maybe my team did so well because we were pulled with Gorging...Its called wash riding is it?

Maybe Gorging does so well in other races because they get in other boat's lanes and get pulled along with other better teams. Who knows...

wow dude (or dudette?), get over it & let it go.  there are more important things in life than a dragonboat race.  We got cut off by team Macau in the 2000m CCWC, and we bumped them and were disqualified for it.  it was the freakin club crews, and we lost out on a gold medal.  slightly more significant of a race than race #1 of Alcan, but we didn't let it bug us that much.  We just used it as motivation for future races and training, and it became a running joke instead of something we were bitter about. 

[threesea]

There is another issue to consider for race organizers.  We all know that these boats are honking machines and, in the event of a collision, could create quite a bit of harm.  Heaven forbid that something drastic should happen, but if it did, and it was determined that the responsible team had a history of seemingly reckless control of their boat, signed waivers aren't going to hold up in the courts especially if race officials failed to enforce the rules!

All things said, a one second penalty won’t break the bank, but might encourage a little more restraint in a future race.

[chuieXX]

but if it did, and it was determined that the responsible team had a history of seemingly reckless control of their boat, signed waivers aren't going to hold up in the courts especially if race officials failed to enforce the rules!

OMFG!!!! hahaha I can't believe what I'm reading on this thread! For once Colossus is the sane one of the bunch here.... Just drop the subject people, welcome to dragon boat racing, you're not in the finals of the World Championships where you've been busting your ass 5 to 7 times a week for years (or in Gorging's case, 12 times a week) if not more to paddle for a world title, and then to lose out on it because of a combination of wind, current and steering.

Things can be a lot worse, so stop beating a dead horse:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vvFzZDprfL0

now THAT's a crash. Life goes on, next race, next festival, next season.

[Colossus]

OMFG!!!! hahaha I can't believe what I'm reading on this thread! For once Colossus is the sane one of the bunch here....
Things can be a lot worse, so stop beating a dead horse:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vvFzZDprfL0

now THAT's a crash. Life goes on, next race, next festival, next season.

thanks! 

and I agree.  thats determination, concentration, and skill, right there. 

[NFW]

wow dude (or dudette?), get over it & let it go.  there are more important things in life than a dragonboat race.  We got cut off by team Macau in the 2000m CCWC, and we bumped them and were disqualified for it.  it was the freakin club crews, and we lost out on a gold medal.  slightly more significant of a race than race #1 of Alcan, but we didn't let it bug us that much.  We just used it as motivation for future races and training, and it became a running joke instead of something we were bitter about. 

Using it as a motivation is a good idea Colossus.
like i said already, this will be chalked to race experience.
so consider it let go.
and that's dude. =D

OMFG!!!! hahaha I can't believe what I'm reading on this thread! For once Colossus is the sane one of the bunch here.... Just drop the subject people, welcome to dragon boat racing, you're not in the finals of the World Championships where you've been busting your ass 5 to 7 times a week for years (or in Gorging's case, 12 times a week) if not more to paddle for a world title, and then to lose out on it because of a combination of wind, current and steering.

Things can be a lot worse, so stop beating a dead horse:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vvFzZDprfL0

now THAT's a crash. Life goes on, next race, next festival, next season.

The video is impressive indeed.

Its called a forum for a reason, to discuss issues/concerns/infos.
If you think that we need to stop beating a dead horse, why dont you contribute by NOT replying to this thread and bumping it up. (thereby dropping the subject)
Let the thread die on its own accord.
This will be my last post in regards to this topic due to the potentiality of this thread taking a turn for the worse.

Cheers.

[Colossus]

Its called a forum for a reason, to discuss issues/concerns/infos.
If you think that we need to stop beating a dead horse, why dont you contribute by NOT replying to this thread and bumping it up. (thereby dropping the subject)
Let the thread die on its own accord.
This will be my last post in regards to this topic due to the potentiality of this thread taking a turn for the worse.

Cheers.

sometimes this forum is so dead and dry, that bumping these threads is the only way to keep things/people going.  Plus, its fun to constructively stir the pot every once and a while; keeps people on their toes and makes them think about what they really want to say and think about what they're reading. 

[nakano]

My team being relatively new to this steer's "habits" did get rattled a tad bit and we ended up not doing our normal rate right after the incident. so our race/focus was disrupted, and we ended up losing. our time was 2:06 to their 2:02.

had we raced our own race with no interference from Gorging, they could have lost for all we know. who knows? =P

so yes, i'm beginning to see a trend as well.
Our teams are not in the same league yet they still attempted to take over our lane. They could have just paddled their best and beaten us anyways. so what gives?

Video link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W40bZhJndk# (High quality available - click on link below the vid)
Pay attention from the 0:28 mark all the way to 0:57.
Tell me i'm wrong about him flipping the bird at the officials.

I have no intention to bash Gorging whatsoever, but maybe they should really reconsider the negative image (of unsportsmanship) that their steers will portray. If he keeps this up (which history seems to agree), the way he conducts himself in the club crew world championships in Malaysia will be an embarrasment to vancouver and canadian dragonboaters in general.

It would be a shame if the innocent paddlers of Gorging get penalized at Malaysia for behaviors such as this.

Yikes...that was crazy.  Isn't there a rule where if anything happens before, or up to the first set of buoys, that you can protest on the spot, and they will re-race?  They were clearly crossing in your lane, because lane 5's buoy was yellow, and you can see it wasn't to the left, but to the right of the boat as they passed.

However, that being said, I do recall the starter saying just before marshaling to the start line, to some degree of "all boats, your marker is to your left. You must finish the race in your lane your you will be penalized".  After she said that, I remember asking myself, you mean to tell me, any boat can take any lane, as long as you cross the finish in your own lane?  So it could be steer error, or it also could be they are using what was stated (not sure if it is in the rule book) to their advantage.  Doesn't seem fair, but advantageous to one team.

[boatbutt]

OMG again!!....so what you are saying is that a less than straight line is more advantageous than staying in your own lane??? I say it was a error...nothing more.......things happen get over it.

[Colossus]

yep, thats correct.  cause according to that video, making huge detours will help you win the race. 

[vicpaddler]

My team being relatively new to this steer's "habits" did get rattled a tad bit and we ended up not doing our normal rate right after the incident. so our race/focus was disrupted, and we ended up losing. our time was 2:06 to their 2:02.

had we raced our own race with no interference from Gorging, they could have lost for all we know. who knows? =P

so yes, i'm beginning to see a trend as well.
Our teams are not in the same league yet they still attempted to take over our lane. They could have just paddled their best and beaten us anyways. so what gives?

Video link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W40bZhJndk# (High quality available - click on link below the vid)
Pay attention from the 0:28 mark all the way to 0:57.
Tell me i'm wrong about him flipping the bird at the officials.

I have no intention to bash Gorging whatsoever, but maybe they should really reconsider the negative image (of unsportsmanship) that their steers will portray. If he keeps this up (which history seems to agree), the way he conducts himself in the club crew world championships in Malaysia will be an embarrasment to vancouver and canadian dragonboaters in general.

It would be a shame if the innocent paddlers of Gorging get penalized at Malaysia for behaviors such as this.

     No offense but there is no way in hell you would have beaten Gorging. Collision or no collision. Not trying to be nasty, but they, along with FCCRC, Kai and Hale are in a different league than the rest of the teams around here. The collision had no bearing on the outcome of the race whatsoever which is probably why there was no penalty applied to them.
     Secondly, the other collisions that have been mentioned in this thread all had different sterns. So there is no "trend" or "history" there. What happened at Alcan was a simple steering error. The boat went off course at the start. Henry mistook the lane markers and thought he was in his lane. When he realized he wasn't he corrected and they finished the race. Hardly trying to "take over" your lane.
      I know most of the Gorging paddlers quite well and they are some of the most sportsmanlike paddlers out there. I can guarantee you that they will not be an embarrassment to anyone in Malaysia. (certainly not Vancouver since they paddle out of Victoria.)
      As for the comment about Gorging doing well because they get pulled along by other teams, I'm hoping it was made tongue in cheek. (so hard to tell in this medium) If it wasn't, I would say its pretty hard to get pulled along when you're the team leading the race....