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[BernMan]

Colossus I am in agreement with you. Don't get me wrong. But I only supported the medal idea in the consolation rounds because it is the 20th Anniversary edition. I even said that there should be noticeable differences between the top final medals and the consolation final medals in terms of how they should look like. I am trying to give those of us who are going to be paddling this year at Alcan something to remember it by even if it is a consolation medal, or at the very least a conversation piece! A memento for most who will be there. I think its a good idea but cost being a factor may never happen anyway.

[Colossus]

the problem i see in that though, is that a) not everyone will get a momento of the 20th anniversary, b) sure, they know its only because of the 20th anniversary, but next year, they'll think "we got one last year...  sucks that we didn't get one this year". 
In my opinion, if the festival is going to do something to celebrate its 20th anniversary, it should be something that involves ALL of the teams and ALL of the paddlers (and the organizers and volunteers!), such as my photo idea.  I don't have any clue on the feesability of that idea, but hey, its an idea that includes everyone. 

[Wet spot]

I agree with Colossus that medals for racing acheivement should not be diluted by giving them to lower acheiving teams or intermingled with medals for other purposes...although I can't entirely agree all of his rant.  I have paddled and coached at all levels and have tons of hardware for winning to prove it but I value the commemorative hardware and momento's reminding me that I was there at that time and place, just as much. (i.e. been there, done that, got the t-shirt to prove it).

The idea of a 20th anniversary commemorative medal ...not just a trinket...is a good one....should be given to all paddlers on all teams participating as part of their entry package....this is particulalry important for all those people who are motivated to paddle and race for other reasons ....i.e. just for being there   (I've still got my jersey from the '94 Victoiria Commonwealth Games when we used the teak boats in a 'demonstration" event at the Games...plus a raft of other hats, shirts and commemorative medals from events elsewhere.)

Speaking of teak - if the teak boats still float I would like to see them used in some demo (650m) races along with the waterlogged paddles (can't recall if they were teak, mahog or w.h.y. but they were heavy and short!).

Finally, I think the event should have a distinct theme in addition to the 20year anniversary, although I can't think of one offhand. but would prefer not to see it linked to the Olympics.

[Dr. Evil]

I agree with the overall sentiment about not giving a medal for consolation rounds. However, I do think that there is an opportunity to give teams a chance to win hardware where they may not otherwise be able to. I think we can achieve that and honour the festival's history by bringing back the Cup races....The Bankers Cup, The Technology Cup, etc... I am sure those Trophies are collecting dust somewhere...probably in Greg Lamb's basement. 

I believe the last time any one of those trophies was contested was back in 2003? I can't recall all the different "Cup" races, but I do recall that many were hotly contested throughout the 90's and the early part of this decade. By bringing back the cup races, we give teams that may not have won medals, an opportunity to win a Cup that recognizes their industry group. We do not compromise the integrity and value of winning a medal, but yet give an opportunity to non-medal winning teams a chance to contend for a Cup that recognizes their industry.

As an aside, I understand there is work being done to bring together a team for the World Police & Fire Games here in Vancouver. I believe there was a Cup for teams employed in the Public Service. IMO, it would be a good opportunity for that team to come together and race in such a cup as many of the paddlers that are in law enforcement or the fire service are paddling for other teams at Alcan. Just a thought.

The only challenge I can think of in bringing back these Cup races is fitting them into the already tight race grid.

 

[Colossus]

The only challenge I can think of in bringing back these Cup races is fitting them into the already tight race grid.

that, i think, would be the hardest part.  I'm not sure how the festivals out east manage it....  perhaps its a separate festival?  *shrug*  not sure. 

[Secret Weapon]

Cup races could be held on the Friday evening, this is what Calgary does. The cup also includes a keg of beer! 

[Colossus]

The cup also includes a keg of beer! 

Where do I sign up?   

[kenbo604]

I definately agree regarding not awarding the "Consolation" teams.  Not sure if it was mentioned already, but if we're talking about rewarding those deserving... what about 4th, 5th, and 6th in the actual final rounds? 

Everyone likes hardware... though I know many people rather the higher rank, a lot of people would still like something to take away.  So, what I fear from having medals for the consolation rounds is people crapping out to get to the consolation round and receiving "hardware".

Solution, nicer ribbons.  Like...chrome ribbons with spinners.    

[BernMan]

A ribbon is just a ribbon. Or better yet some people may even use it as a book mark. I don't read so I just toss them. But really how many people proudly display their ribbons? I know I don't. 

[Colossus]

Before I packed up my room, I had a shelf of trophies, plaques, medals, and ribbons, etc that I've picked up over the years from various sports.  One of my friends has an entire wall in her living room full of trophies, ribbons etc that she's won...    I'm quite sure others do as well. 

But, unlike Bernman here, I learned how to read and occassionally use non-placing ribbons as book marks. 

[BernMan]

Before I packed up my room, I had a shelf of trophies, plaques, medals, and ribbons, etc that I've picked up over the years from various sports.  One of my friends has an entire wall in her living room full of trophies, ribbons etc that she's won...    I'm quite sure others do as well. 

But, unlike Bernman here, I learned how to read and occassionally use non-placing ribbons as book marks. 

HARDY HAR HAR!   

[Bruce]

20 Years. That is significant. Since so few of the participants actually receive a medal, it would be nice if every participant received a commemorative pin or medal for being part of this special year.