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DiggerPig
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FVDBC 2nd Annual Harrison Regatta Predictions ... Anyone?
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July 13, 2006, 10:04:08 PM »
Hello Everyone,
The race grid is out and for those teams coming the first two rounds will be based on accumulated times. Not on how you place - i.e. 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. We want every race to count. So I hope that clears up any confusion. So does anyone care to make any predictions on who is going to finish in the top 5 for mixed and top 3 for women?
MIXED DIVISION
ALPHA Dragons
Chilliwack Thunder Strokers
Chilliwack Engine & Auto Repair
Concord Pacific Flying Dragons Too
Deep Cove Catch 22
Delta Flying Dragons
Dogwood Nothin Dragon Seniors
Elephant & Castle Booze Cruise
Fresh Off the Dragonboat
Fort Langley SOAR (Spirit of a Renegade)
Just Dragon Along
Lotus N'Sinc
MacKenzie Mussels
Mission Park Travel Dragonflies
Ordeal
Phat Phish Racing
Pirates
Ready Jet Go
ROLI Canada
Saints Preserve Us
Scaly Justice
Splash Test Dragons
Strathcona's Dangerous When Wet
Sudden Impact Dragon Boat Team
Sword Fish
Synergy Young Gunz
Synergy Speeders
Synergy Soulmarines
TD Lightning
Team Vortex
VO2 Max
WOMENS DIVISION
Abreast in a boat / In the Cove
Canadian Construction Women
Chilliwack Water Warriors
Cultus Lake Dragon Flyers
Dragon Ladies
Fort Langley Fliers
Fort Langley Kindred Spirit
Fort Langley Rec Team
Fort Langley WOW (Women On Water)
Friends Abreast
Insink
Kelowna Pacemakers
North Shore Sirens
Soul Sisters
Spirit Abreast & Friends
Sunshine Dragons Hypnautix
One more late entry might be in the works for the women division - if I don't hear by Friday then it's a no go ... really good team rumored to be interested - keep you updated.
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kryssee
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Re: FVDBC 2nd Annual Harrison Regatta Predictions ... Anyone?
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July 14, 2006, 12:21:22 PM »
Well..not that I'm biased or anything (on a women's team), but my predictions for the women's division are that the Dragon Flyers and Water Warriors are gonna be duking it out for gold, unless this "mystery" women's team comes...Hoping for us tho! (Water Warriors) We have a score to settle..hehe! As for the mixed div., I think that TD Lightening and Sudden Impact will be head to head for top team! Good luck all!
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Swordfish
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Re: FVDBC 2nd Annual Harrison Regatta Predictions ... Anyone?
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July 14, 2006, 02:21:38 PM »
Sry, can't seem to find the race grid anywhere.
Oh and....DWW, Roli, FODB.
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Re: FVDBC 2nd Annual Harrison Regatta Predictions ... Anyone?
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July 14, 2006, 02:45:47 PM »
No offence to any of my friends on teams that I don't mention on here but my predictions for top 5 are as follows in no particular order:
DWW
Roli
FoDB
Syngery (which ever is their strongest)
Phat Phish (this is obviously a biased prediction but also a wish!)
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Lethal Weapon
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Re: FVDBC 2nd Annual Harrison Regatta Predictions ... Anyone?
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July 14, 2006, 03:32:38 PM »
Hey Bern Man! You are NEVER BIASED!
I don't know who predicted TD And Sudden in the finals but I am sure ROLI, DWW and FODB will have something to say about that!
Heard they are basing the seeding on total times in the first 2 heats which is nice except a lot of it will depend on which boat you draw (I heard Barney may be coming to visit....) and the water conditions at the time (the wind picks up really fast on the lake!)
Hopefully the "fast" teams will make the comp division interesting!
Predictions are a tough one as ROLI and DWW are not bringing their full teams (but will still be tough!)
I will put a guess at:
1. DWW
2. ROLI
3. FODB
4. Sudden (home field)
5. this will be a toss up - TD, VO2MAx, Swordfish (defend our DQ from last yearÂ
), Phat or JDA
Mind you with the wide range of boats that are being used a slow boat can change anything!
Looking forward to a great day in beautiful Harrison and Congrats to FVDBA for setting up what looks like a fun day of racing and ......
I'll be snapping all day as well so SMILE for the camera!
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zephyrantes
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Re: FVDBC 2nd Annual Harrison Regatta Predictions ... Anyone?
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July 14, 2006, 03:49:46 PM »
I think the first and second place will be interesting to see the ROLI and DWW boats as they're not bringing their full teams. Same goes for FODB... we've picked up quite a paddlers for different teams for the start of this post-alcan season...
Personally, I'd like to get a medal, but I'm more interested in doing that survival race... apart from longboat (which I've only done once last year), a change from your 500m race is quite welcome!
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Re: FVDBC 2nd Annual Harrison Regatta Predictions ... Anyone?
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July 15, 2006, 10:16:25 AM »
Quote from: Swordfish on July 14, 2006, 02:21:38 PM
Sry, can't seem to find the race grid anywhere.
Try this (it was not there a day or so ago, but is now):Â
http://www.fraservalleydragonboatclub.com/FileLib/RaceGrid2006.pdf
Rather a curious format: two pre-assigned heat grids, rather than the "go to this heat depending on where you finish in your first heat" format used in Alcan (& all other regattas I've ever been in, I think). The seeding will be VERY crucial to who finishes where in the heats, obviously.
But then the advancements, into Comp/RecA/B, will be based on combined heat times, not heat finish order:
Quote from: DiggerPig on July 13, 2006, 10:04:08 PM
Hello Everyone,
  The race grid is out and for those teams coming the first two rounds will be based on accumulated times. Not on how you place - i.e. 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. We want every race to count. So I hope that clears up any confusion.
So I guess it will work out in the end ... best teams to Comp, etc.
In other words ... paddle HARD people, even if you've got open water on the pack 100 metres in ...
Sure hope the winds & waves are consistent thru the morning!!
7 days an' a-countin' ah is ... 4 races in one day, plus da barrel races ... oh boyo, ah cannna' wait ... Â
And a note to the organizers (Mr. Digger - are you the Bossman?) ... please, please, PLEASE don't bring Barney, folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Been there, done that ... yes, he's sloooowwww & heavy & creaky ...Â
Dan
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rightarm
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Re: FVDBC 2nd Annual Harrison Regatta Predictions ... Anyone?
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July 15, 2006, 11:23:15 AM »
what the?! that thing still exists?!?
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Steamrollers Moaner
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Re: FVDBC 2nd Annual Harrison Regatta Predictions ... Anyone?
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July 15, 2006, 11:51:38 AM »
1.) DWW
2.) Roli Canada
3.) FODB
4.) Alpha (if they bring their stroke rate down to 72)
5.) JDA
6.) Vo2Max or Swordfish
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DiggerPig
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Re: FVDBC 2nd Annual Harrison Regatta Predictions ... Anyone?
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July 15, 2006, 02:30:09 PM »
First off I am not the boss and would never want the job ... little rewards for all the hard work!
I'm helping with the race grid and we've corrected the wording on how the rounds will develop. We acknowledge that we can not please everyone, but having two rounds where the seeds were randomly drawn made it the most fair(in our opinion). This way it's literally luck of the draw and not someones opinion on who is a top team and who is not. We think any one on any day can elevate their team to a higher degree than previous regatta's. Again - that said there are some obvious teams that would have to be considered favorites - Roli Canada, DWW, Alpha ... You
should
underestimate Sudden Impact as it only works in our favor
Here is the new wording - I hope this clarifies and corrects any concerns. If not ... hmmm
Note1: Seed for Round 3 (SEMI) is based on the
accumulated race times
from Round 1 and Round 2.
Note2: Seeds for the FINALS based on
placement
in previous race (semi-finals) +
fastest 3rd place time
. Ties are broken based on cumulative times.
Note 3: For the Semi Finals and Finals lane placement will be based on lane conditions and time's throughout the day
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kryssee
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Re: FVDBC 2nd Annual Harrison Regatta Predictions ... Anyone?
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July 15, 2006, 03:13:26 PM »
Any word on the possible late entry in the woman's division??? Are they in or out? Could we have a final roster?? :DThanks! (Nothing like 20 questions!)
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DiggerPig
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Re: FVDBC 2nd Annual Harrison Regatta Predictions ... Anyone?
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July 15, 2006, 03:28:07 PM »
FCRCC Women had made some inquires about coming out ... it was too short a notice when we got back too them
So everything is set - no more teams to be added.
Hope that answers your question ... I really wanted FCRCC Women to come out - but it wasn't in the cards for this year.
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Re: FVDBC 2nd Annual Harrison Regatta Predictions ... Anyone?
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July 15, 2006, 04:06:36 PM »
Quote
In other words ... paddle HARD people, even if you've got open water on the pack 100 metres in ...
Harrison is a fresh water lake , so no salt (or effluent) to help with bouyancy, so some times may suprise you .Its quite a tight but interesting schedule,and the later races look like they are going to be highly contested. Weather forecast for the w/end is good, so bring the sunscreen.
Mizz-Drag-on-boat will be held during the break, and promises to be better than last year!,with even more mizzes signed up.
Good luck to all teams ,,,,
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Re: FVDBC 2nd Annual Harrison Regatta Predictions ... Anyone?
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July 16, 2006, 12:18:00 AM »
Quote from: DiggerPig on July 15, 2006, 02:30:09 PM
First off I am not the boss and would never want the job ... little rewards for all the hard work!
Sorry, I was just joshin'. Been there (a sort-of bossman, in a volunteer group) - know
exactly
what you mean about "rewards"! Ther ARE a few, 'tis true - but the forehead gets a wee sore after being banged on too many times.
Quote from: DiggerPig on July 15, 2006, 02:30:09 PM
... having two rounds where the seeds were randomly drawn made it the most fair(in our opinion). This way it's literally luck of the draw and not someones opinion on who is a top team and who is not ...
I agree. I was a little taken aback when I first saw the heat grids - but that was only because it was so different than any races I've ever been in (FC & Alcan, Richmond, White Rock, Vic, Kel, SF, Kent). But you're right - it is indeed fair.
And may I add that it's clever, too ... assuming you don't have enough seeding info (how many watchers/spies does Alcan have, never mind their own prelim "test regatta", to help figure out the seeding??) ... well then ... just throw 'em all in the water willy-nilly (or an approximation thereto) for a pair of heats, see who comes up with the best combined times.
Wouldn't work in FC, nor Rich or WR or Vic or SF - they're in tidal waters.
Thanks for the additional info about the placement basis for the Semi-to-Final advancements, and the lane assigments.
See y'all there next weekend. Pray for sunshine!
Dan
P.S. to Steamrollers Moaner
Rate? Ummm ... you'll just have to wait & see! We've done practices as high as 100+ ... boat flies, paddlers die!!
But different boats, different water => differing rates. 70-something can be a nice rate, too, depending ...
Then again - have you seen any of the FC Men's practices lately? It's just in training, I know - but they DO seem at times to have taken on a distinctly "Alpha rate".
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kryssee
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Re: FVDBC 2nd Annual Harrison Regatta Predictions ... Anyone?
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July 16, 2006, 01:45:56 AM »
No need to pray for sunshine..as of today, the forecast for Sat. out there...41 C!!! It'll be a roaster!
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