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[seaboy]

As someone who was in that race, I can assure you (and I've had people from SUCCESS, PAC REACH AND FCRCC MIXED all agree) that FC was NEVER ahead of SUCCESS at any time during that race (do you know the exact angle of the course?). I wouldn't hesitate to say that FC was never ahead of PR either. So say what you want about wash riding, but it didn't happen in that race - unless it was the other way around.

Not so, as someone who was also in that race, I can assure you that in fact FC was ahead of both teams in that race.  They pulled out shortly after the start and maintained this until just before the finish when it appeared that there were a couple of near collisions.  Not sure what happened and who was at fault but something definatly happened that changed the course of the race.

I was also in that race, I had a very good view of FC and PR. From my perspective PR led FC the whole race.  I can't say about Success I couldn't see them until the end which makes me think they were trailing FC until the finish but might have been the angle. It looked like Success shot ahead in the last 1/4 of the race which was very surprising. I can also tell you that FC was in PR's lane at the halfway point, I saw them cross on PR's side of the buoy. That makes me think that they were being crowded by Success, again I can't say because I couldn't see Success. Just what I saw from my angle, no sour grapes. Congrats to everyone especially Success.

[Colossus]

i still like my helicopter idea  

[ARMY]

I'd be careful with the helicopter comments Colossus.....some teams will start to expect them at festivals.  Then any festival without a helicopter would be sub-standard for a "comp team".

Congrats to all teams in Platinum A for a great race....Success just pulled it out. Somebody had to win.

 

[BlueStreak]

<off-topic>
You know, that might not be as absurd as it sounds: Take one remote controlled hobby helicopter, add one wireless video camera system and off we go with the overhead race cam!
</off-topic>

[willpower]

Well said Rossifumi, Angus, Guido, Colossus, ARMY, and others! SUCCESS did a great job, and I'm thrilled that they were able to end their season with such an awesome race to honour their fallen comrade.. RIP Cliff

It was also great meeting you guys from Tempest and hearing all the crazy stories you had to share.. it gives my team hope knowing how you guys started up so relatively recently and how you've been able to keep having fun even with all the competitive racing.. Gimme a shout when you're back from Whistler, and we'll go fill ourselves with drink and chubby chicken!!

All in all, a great weekend.. lots of friends to be seen, and lots of interesting races (anyone see how Pac Reach was gliding in their Semi's?!? AMAZING!!!)

Would've been nice to see some Millenium boats again, but sixsixteens work just as well... let's just not bring the Gemini's out there, okay? The lake seemed choppier than usual

Was also great to see the Apocalypse Alumni come out again! You guys did awesome and were a great choice!

Finally, thanks to all the Synergy teams for not going completely nuts and flooding the boats this time... I'm glad u guys got it our of your system at Taiwanese!

[PaddleFunk]

Just to throw some more fuel on the fire

Did anyone notice the Jet Ski that went zooming by about 1/2 way through the last race kicking up one heck of a wake???  I'm thinking that if you want to CLOSE the "EXPRESS LANE" that would be a good way to do it...

From my perspective in the beer garden    it seemed to that Alpha in lane 6 was leading till about the 1/2 closely followed by lane 5 and then they seemed to lose their momentum... could it have been the wake? Was it burn out from the fast stroke rate in fresh water?  Was it just that the other teams turned it on and they couldn't?  We may never know...

What we do know... SUCCESS won... and congrats to them for pulling it out... they certainly had some motivation.

Other than that... great weekend weather wise... water could have been calmer... there was adversity... there was contreversy... but if none of that existed what would we have to complain about and how boring would this forum be???

[Secret Weapon]

Alpha in the lead in the final?  Against Success, FCRCC, Pac Reach and Subaru?... I think not.  Could it have been the angle of the course Paddlefunk?  Most boats in lane 6 looked in the lead a lot of times because of the angle of the course.  Or it could have been the effects of the beer you were drinking in the beer garden  

[PaddleFunk]

Thus the preface of the beer goggles... but the beer garden was also lined up reasonably well with the half way markers... and to suggest those who where standing at the finish line had a better perspective at this point in the race is counter to your argument... so unless you where running with the boats along shore... or in Colossus' Helecopter what you see is all based on the angle you're looking from.

[Secret Weapon]

Okay to be serious about lane 6, you cannot judge from the shore who is in the lead unless you were in the timers tent to see how the angle of the race was laid out.  It is always at any Festival/Reggatta very deceiving even if you look at the bouy lines to judge from the shore.  I can assure you that Alpha was not in the lead at any time in the final.

[Secret Weapon]

Regarding angles, and in laments terms:  Bouys lines do not reflect the angle of a race course and should not be used to judge placements throughout a race or finish.

Thank you

[PaddleFunk]

Okay to be serious about lane 6, you cannot judge from the shore who is in the lead unless you were in the timers tent to see how the angle of the race was laid out.  It is always at any Festival/Reggatta very deceiving even if you look at the bouy lines to judge from the shore.  I can assure you that Alpha was not in the lead at any time in the final.

So from this am I to assume, regardless of the result, that the tent which is a stationary object... at the finish line no less... has the best perspective of the race throughout???

Certainly at the finish line they are the authority I do not dispute that, and I am aware of drift and that buoys move thank you.  

But think about what you said for a minute... at midrace the person midcourse regardless of course layout has a better idea of what is going on at that point in the race that the person 250M down the course.  So unless you where stearing or drumming on one of those boats you have no real idea about what mid-race positioning is like in a race that was as tight as that one midway.  

So unless you have some other way of visually triangulating all point of the course during the race from the timers tent you have to assume the person at midrace has a better perspective of the placing at that point.

Oh and if you do have some methodology for comming up with who is in what place from the finish line throughout the race I'm sure the guys that where calling the race would love to know.

Anyway I do admit that the angle I was looking from may not have been the best... the point that I was trying to make was that the outside lanes seemed to get swamped from the jetski that was ran along the side of the course.

[Secret Weapon]

[Colossus]

doo di doo...   (as we continue to flog the dead horse)  there is such a thing as OVERanalysing an issue...

[rightarm]

flog flog flog

FLOGGING

 

[Luke]

hmmmm anyone noticed how synergy wasn't able to get their medals in front of the crowds on the count of the podium being located in THE BEER GARDEN.  C'mon some respect for the juniors who worked hard to get to where they are

I felt guilty(bit) going(sneaking) in to hang out with my team.