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Author Topic: Paddler Input: Secure or Open Paddlers Village?  (Read 4493 times)
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« on: September 18, 2012, 01:52:41 PM »

Hello everyone!

I am looking for some paddler input regarding keeping Paddlers Village secure with access granted only to those on your roster, or opening it up to everyone.  There are pros and cons to each and I recognize everyone has their own opinions. While we are starting to work on plans for the 2013 festival, we will look at input from paddlers from a variety of sources, including our onsite survey and input from forums such as Dragon Boat West.

If you would like to send your input to me directly instead of responding to this post, please feel free to send it via email to [email protected].

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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2012, 12:52:08 AM »

While I do think that the secure paddlers village is a good idea, I think the option to have guest passes or family wristbands would be a good idea.  It's annoying to have to family members wait outside racers village and wander off aimlessly because they aren't allowed in.  And worse yet, if they travelled all the way to Victoria to watch you race and they are alone, that makes for a terrible experience for them to have to roam around not knowing the area or have anyone to keep them company for the day.

Family and friends are already being let in anyhow as the bands are removable, and swappable, and tradeable anyways.  But might as well make it official.  Family and/or friends should be able to get a pass as long as it is applied for by a racer.  You could do a limit 2 per person or something like that.  There aren't really a whole lot of family or friends that come to watch the whole day or need access to racers village really, but having that option for a family member or friend who came all the way to spend the day would be nice. 

I don't think all public should be allowed in, to minimize the risk of possible theft of goods left out while warming up or racing.  Of course valuables are left out at your own risk, but why increase that risk?

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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2012, 06:15:37 AM »

I don't know if there is space for additional friends and family in it's current configuration, even if it was capped at 1-2 extras per person, that still has potential to be a lot of extra bodies in a congested space.  Perhaps you'd need a separate area nearby that people could hang out with families but still have captains etc know where they are but again in the current configuration, I'm not sure where that would be.

I think there are lots of friends and family who come down, we were lucky enough to be by the fence so they could find us and we could pop out but we did have a pretty constant stream of visitors (local crew though).

I do think security is important though and while I don't bring super valuable stuff down there, it's nice to know you have somewhere you can leave things where they won't wander, the paddlers are generally pretty trustworthy.  I've seen outside folk wander into our tent at another festival and help themselves to our food!  Smile

Perhaps a balance would be a relatively open village (some security keeping an eye out for things leaving with non-paddler-looking types) and perhaps some sort of manned gear check where you have an area with volunteers where you could check stuff like stereos for warm-up music/video cameras etc when you don't want to carry it but don't want to leave it in a semi-secure area sort of like the bag drop at running events.  If you went that route there would also need to be somewhere nearby for people who came in on bikes to secure them.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2012, 01:29:28 PM »

I admit I prefer the fenced off area with security standing at entrance and patrolling the area for both in-town and out-of-town experience.  Too many sketchy people wandering through does not help.  I have witnessed attempted theft and assaults already.  Even then, security does not prevent all thefts, but it does bring some feeling of assurance to the paddlers.

As for passes, I have seen a simple here's 26 wristbands no matter how many team members you really have versus photo id badges. It the balance of costs and ability (most volunteers don't want to be doormen).

Downtown Victoria's Ship's Point is not the same as Pt Alberni Sproat Lake. Security is definitely needed.
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2012, 10:25:30 PM »

I don't see why a paddler can't simply bring a family member/friend to the info tent and get the a visitor pass.

I think an open racer's village is a poor idea. We have to check out of the hotels before noon the last day of the festival and all our belongings is in the racer's village. I'd rather have that peace of mind of an enclosed and secured village.
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