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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2009, 11:05:09 PM »

Just some comments, mainly repeats of what others have said:

- advancements have to be based on placement, not time (unless as tie breaker the way its done at Alcan). We experienced close to 50 seconds between our first race and our last.  Teams can get screwed depending what time they race and at least one clearly did.

- didn't know about the only 2 races for some teams issue.  That's *not* good, I'd be super p***ed and would swear off coming back for that reason alone.

- no airhorn at the start = fail.  Although having one at the finish was nice so we knew when to slack off.   Dance  Seriously though, get an airhorn for the start even if it's to spare the race marshal's vocal cords.

- not a necessity but a PA system down the bank would've been nice.

I was at the Richmond festival the first year and I think it might be another couple of years before I'll do it again.
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« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2009, 11:35:13 PM »

Oh and Manda, you keep dressing whatever way you want!  If you got it, flaunt it.
Ok now I am curious. Anyone have pictures of Manda and anyone else?  Mad
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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2009, 11:37:50 PM »

I have to ask:

1) Why would anyone want to have Delta Vancouver Airport Hotel catering services? I believe the only choice were $5 burgers or $5 veggie burgers. It just seems to me as overpriced hamburgers. I would have been happier with UBC catering services during the regatta.

2) Since this was a GO Rowing and Padddling event, was there really no race officials with dragon boat regatta experience? In the past, did they not use placement? Also, with the horns, why not use a starter horn and eliminate the  4 finishing horns? No every boat could hear the start, and the finish horns did not serve a purpose (unless the steersperson really is unable where the finish line is).

3) Why not have the beer garden outdoors?  Although out in the elements, it sure was a lot more fun having teams get together. In the clubhouse, it is crowded and the atmosphere very stifled.

Comment on tides:
Here is the tide table for Sand Heads
9am   10am 11am 12pm 1pm   2pm  3pm   4pm   5pm
0.7      0.7      0.9      1.5      2.1      2.8      3.5      3.9      4.2
From this alone, if times were used, the first 4 heats were at a disadvantage.


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« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2009, 12:16:20 AM »

Oh and Manda, you keep dressing whatever way you want!  If you got it, flaunt it.

Ok now I am curious. Anyone have pictures of Manda and anyone else?  Mad


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« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2009, 08:30:02 AM »

AWESOME! Ahhhh to remember the 80's eh? Thanks for posting!  Open mouthed smiley
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« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2009, 09:41:49 AM »

get to work bernman Laughing
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« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2009, 09:56:22 AM »

get to work bernman Laughing

Is it 11:30 yet? Uhhhh nooooooooo it ain't!  Laughing
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« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2009, 12:19:27 PM »


2) Since this was a GO Rowing and Padddling event, was there really no race officials with dragon boat regatta experience? In the past, did they not use placement? Also, with the horns, why not use a starter horn and eliminate the  4 finishing horns? No every boat could hear the start, and the finish horns did not serve a purpose (unless the steersperson really is unable where the finish line is).



i look on go's site - http://www.gorowandpaddle.org/events/richmond_festival.php. i don't believe this is a go rowing and paddling event (since '06 or 07). it is run by the ubc boathouse and they use go rowing and paddling's millennium boats.

looking forward to the seniors games dragon boat in richmond in september!
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« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2009, 04:59:11 PM »

After all is said and done, I hope that the Rankings will not be affected by such a regatta. It would be a shame for teams who entered this festival to be penalized for their participation. 
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« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2009, 06:42:16 PM »

Hi Pat; notwithstanding my earlier comment, I hope this is included in rankings. The formulae seems to work, and it adds to the flavour. Plus without wildcard results how can our xxx pool be exciting without it. Thank you BlueSteak to inversing my universe from 649, 21, NHL to westcoast dragon boating!
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« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2009, 10:46:19 PM »

i have no clue what you are talking about towards the end off ur paragraph backwards. the festival was fun, the ranking means nothing to most ppl including me. as a higher ranked team doesn't always mean that they are a better team than a lower ranked one or that they will always beat that lower ranked team. i doubt it will even be included towards total points as some teams were merged teams and i don't know how they would split it. even if it does, it wouldn't move any teams up any spot as the ranking on this board only moves up a team if that team beats a previous team that they had lost to. anyways, harrison is coming up and hope to see u all there.

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« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2009, 11:24:10 PM »

ouch...well, at least your picture doesn't hurt my eyes as much as manda's...
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« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2009, 12:01:34 AM »

Super Exposed pic of the A final Bronze, Silver and Gold winners



Normally exposed photo of the same thing.

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« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2009, 08:43:33 AM »

Well we were 2nd in our 1st race at 9:20 am, 1st in our semi and ended up 4th in the A final. We were in the 4th lane and didn't hear the start call too well so a horn would have been nice and it would have made for a tighter finish. Maybe the jet go /rip tide should have been there instead, but luck of the draw, eh. Having a medal from the B final would have been nice.
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« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2009, 08:50:38 AM »

After all is said and done, I hope that the Rankings will not be affected by such a regatta. It would be a shame for teams who entered this festival to be penalized for their participation. 

Using results from regattas such as this can skew the Dragonboatwest rankings a little, but I wouldn't lose sleep over it.  

The rankings here are a fun way to see how one team potentially stacks up against another.  Just remember that a team will only move up the rankings if they beat a higher ranked team head-to-head.  I'm sure their is some concern that teams that ended up in a higher division will move up the rankings unnecessarily.  If they got to race in a higher final by virtue of a tide assisted time and didn't actually beat a higher ranked team in the process then they shouldn't move up.

Having said all that, if some weird movements in the rankings do occur (mostly caused by merged teams that use one of the orignal teams names), then their is always the potential for the initial seeding at future regattas to be affected.... for example, without a Club Crew type process of tracking and vetting crew lists, organisers of future regattas would have to assume that Team "A" with a good performance had improved and should now be seeded higher, when in fact their improved performance was the result of 8-10 borrowed paddlers from higher ranked teams.

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