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« on: June 01, 2009, 09:02:25 AM »

The race grids for this weekedends regatta are up:

Sat AM: http://dragonboatbc.ca/docs/2009/DragonZoneRegattaGridSatAM.pdf
Sat PM: http://dragonboatbc.ca/docs/2009/DragonZoneRegattaGridSatPM.pdf
Sun AM: http://dragonboatbc.ca/docs/2009/DragonZoneRegattaGridSunAM.pdf

If this weather holds, it will be a great weekend for racing.

Good luck to all.
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2009, 11:35:45 PM »

Anyone got Saturday's results? Any surprises? Any upsets? Do tell. DO TELL!  Laughing
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2009, 12:03:58 AM »

See the following links for the Saturday AM and PM results of the DragonZone regatta.  Heats were run in either Gemini boats or BUK's.

SAT AM Results

SAT PM Results

Sat AM - A Final for Competitive Division
1. Masters of D'Zone
2. Sudden Impact
3. Dragon Hearts Magnum
4. Without Warning
5. Swordfish
6. Superslim Phat Phish Racing

Sat AM - B Final for Competitive Division
1. Eye of the Dragon
2. Lifescan
3. Riptide
4. Red Fusion
5. Team Storm
6. Banana Fusion

Sat AM - C Final for Competitive Division
1. VO2Max
2. Team Vortex
3. RGL
4. Ready, Jet, Go!
5. How Wet Can You Get?
6. Dogwood Nothin Dragon

Sat AM - D Final for Competitive Division
1. RaceFace
2. PCL Centurions
3. Booze Cruise
4. Vancity Thunder
5. Scott's Ahead of Schedule
6. Dogwood Nothin Dragon Too


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Sat PM - A Final
1. Team Uproar
2. Concord Pacific Flying Dragons
3. FORTified
4. Dragon Hearts Beat
5. The Eh Team
6. Metro Vancouver's 44 Cheeks

Sat PM - B Final
1. Gung Haggis Fat Choy
2. hmmm SEA MONSTER
3. Chlliwack Crusaders
4. OarDeal
5. DragonboatZ: Dragons of Doom
6. Miller Thomson

Sat PM - C Final
1. CC Riders
2. FC Grandragons
3. Team Momentum
4. uniPHARM Spirit Dragons
5. Concord Flying Dragons Too
6. Golder Water Warriors

Sat PM - D Final
1. Saints Preserve Us
2. Sea-Gee-A's
3. Sisters in Sync
4. Dragon Zone Twisted Hips
5. Off Balance
6. Dragon Hearts Go-ju Go
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2009, 12:15:48 AM »

Man those are some pretty crazy results. There are team names I have never seen before! It would seem that the majority of the finals were almost on par for where the teams ended up and/or expected to be. Except maybe Eye of the Dragon. I would say they belonged in the A final as their time in their B Final beat the 6th place team in A Final and they were in a gemini. And in the A final first to fifth were about 4 seconds apart, except for the last place team. Oh well that is how racing goes I guess... Good job to Masters, SI Black and Magnum for coming in 1, 2 and 3.
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2009, 01:03:23 AM »

Ditto for the Afternoon races Bernman

Almost a repeat to Eye of the Dragon in the morning regatta, in the afternoon Gung Haggis Fat Choy placed 1st in B Final by about 10 seconds, and beat the 6th place A Final team's time - despite being in a Gemini.

All I can say, is our second race did not go smoothly.  We made adjustments for the final, and they all worked.  That's racing.

Great to see the final morning races.  Good to see new teams out there. 

Also nice that teams were pretty well divided into Comp/Rec A in the morning, and Rec + Novice in the afternoon.  It helped make all the heats a lot closer, with a few exceptions.  I hope these pre-seeded divisions can be incorporated into more Festivals... like the old Comp, Rec and Novice divisions at Alcan pre-2002.  All the races were tighter, and its more fun racing when the teams are beside each other instead of spaced so far apart.
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2009, 01:12:46 AM »

Runaway bananas (ie. not a full boat) is so uncool.

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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2009, 08:20:37 AM »

The morning racing was great.. lots of close races and so really well run.

Man those are some pretty crazy results. There are team names I have never seen before! It would seem that the majority of the finals were almost on par for where the teams ended up and/or expected to be. Except maybe Eye of the Dragon. I would say they belonged in the A final as their time in their B Final beat the 6th place team in A Final and they were in a gemini. And in the A final first to fifth were about 4 seconds apart, except for the last place team. Oh well that is how racing goes I guess... Good job to Masters, SI Black and Magnum for coming in 1, 2 and 3.

I have to disagree with you Bernman.... I love Eye of the Dragon, but if they belonged in the A final then they would have placed in the top 3 in their semi...
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2009, 01:27:51 PM »

Yes there were some crazy results. For one thing there was strong tide and the wind. But I have a suspicion that only one of the Gemini's was clean. A couple weeks ago we scratched the bottom of the red/yellow one on a rock at low tide. It was flipped up on the dock for quite a few days to inspect it. I assume they cleaned it (it looked clean). I saw it in Lane 2 in the Gemini heats. Check the results of the same teams (one racing in Lane 2 Gemini) versus those same teams racing each other again in other heats.

Heat 1 Gemini
Team LifeScan 2:24.7 (Lane 2 Gemini)
Without Warning 2:25.5
Swordfish 2:32.3

Heat 6 Buk
Without Warning 2:11.5
Swordfish 2:21.4
LifeScan 2:29.9

Hmm, LS beats WW by 1 second and SF by 7 then gets beat by WW and SF by 18 and 8.


Another set

Heat 3 Gemini
Dragon Hearts Magnum 2:24.8
Red Fusion 2:28.8 (Lane 2 Gemini)
SuperSlim Phat Phish Racing 2:41.0

Heat 6 Buk
Dragon Hearts Magnum 2:19.1
SuperSlim Phat Phish Racing 2:22.8
Red Fusion 2:25.0

Red beats Phat by 12 and then loses by 2.


Another set

Heat 7 Gemini
Dogwood Nothin Dragon 2:39.0 (Lane 2 Gemini)
How Wet Can You Get? 2:41.8
Ready, JET, Go! 2:44.1

C Final Gemini
Ready, JET, Go! 2:26.1
How Wet Can You Get? 2:34.8
Dogwood Nothin Dragon 2:45.5

Dogwood wins by 2 and 5 then loses by 19 and 10.


Another set

Heat 8 BuKs
Red Fusion 2:25.0
Eye Of The Dragon 2:28.8
Banana Fusion 2:29.9

B Final Gemini
Eye Of The Dragon 2:22.0 (Lane 2 Gemini)
Red Fusion 2:38.0
Banana Fusion 2:46.1

Eye is in the middle of the Fusions by a couple seconds in the semi then win by 16 and 24 in Lane 2 Gemini. We had a good race but it doesn’t explain the huge spread.

In the afternoon Lane 2 Gemini finished 1st in 5 of the 6 heats, winning by an average of more than 10 seconds even though Lane 3 and 4 were seeded higher or finished higher in previous races an hour earlier.

It's not often that a team beats you by 2 seconds and then you beat them by 12 seconds an hour later. In our final we wouldn’t have beat Riptide and Lifescan by 12 seconds if it was even. We’re pretty evenly matched with those teams (and they’ve been beating us lately).

There wasn’t much tidal flow by 11:00. I'd bet money on the Gems being dirty except Lane 2. I’m not sure about the BuKs. Something to consider.

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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2009, 03:39:59 PM »

 :Wow what an afternoon.Regatta was well run,races on time and very competitive.

Did anyone notice the team in lane 1 in the 'A' Final???That would be THE EH TEAM.

When was the last time this team made it to a 'A' Final???Probably  never.

I have to admit I am a member of the team and so proud of what we have

accomplished over the last year.To go from the uaual last in the heat finishes

to where we are now is amazing. The credit must go to our coach,Pat P.

Who has been around False Creek for years.She has taught us how to paddle

correctly and as a team.but most of all she has taught to believe in our

selves.For a group of Seniors we have now become slimmer,Fitter and healthier.

Thanks to all the people that volunteered their time for the rest of us to have

such a great day.I must add that we able to do all three races in BUK's





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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2009, 05:28:16 PM »

i heard that the reason why eye of the dragon was in the B finals was b/c they were penalized in an earlier race. is this true? does anyone have the details? i think they should have made it to the A finals. i am always impressed with that team....great timing and good power too.

as for the EH team, yes, our team has noticed how well you've been doing the past couple of years. congratulations! looks like the hard work is paying off.
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2009, 06:09:19 PM »

EOTD didn't make the A finals because we weren't top 3 in the semi. There's no problem there. The B final was the right place for us to be.

It would have been good if the B Final was fair though, and all the Gemini races for that matter. We definitely aren't 3 boat lengths faster than the other teams that were in B. We didn't deserve to win by 12 seconds, or necessarily even win at all. That was my point. We had a clean boat and they didn't. It looked good for the documentary crew though so thanks to random chance for that.

Take the Gemini results with a grain or two of salt. Maybe all the results if the BuKs weren't cleaned either.

Other than that it was a well run regatta. It was on time or ahead of time, the results were posted quickly and the volunteers were great.

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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2009, 08:48:59 PM »

My team cleaned all of the Geminis three weeks ago on the same afternoon, including the red boat. All of the boats should have looked like the red boat's underside, which was free of debris last week. Maybe something else is up with the Gems, but cleanliness shouldn't have been much of a factor.
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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2009, 10:28:45 PM »

The results definitely doesn't make the Gemini's balances look good. I hope it'll be resolved when the real festival rolls around, otherwise it could disrupt the competitive scene by a fair margin. Is there any plan to take a closer look at it?

Good races out to all teams. Smile
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2009, 10:29:50 PM »

I will agree with Dan Hebert.  The results for the #2 Gemini look a bit fishy.

Remember that newcomers to dragon boat races always watch the races and wonder why boat #3 or #4 is always winning on the Saturday at the Alcan Dragon Boat Races?

Usually the seeding order for teams goes lane 3, 4, 2, 5, 1, 6, 7 - or something like that.
So that the top teams - most expected to win, will be in the middle lanes #3, #4.

Lane 2 Gemini came first 3/6 on Sat AM
Lane 2 Gemini came first 5/6 on Sat PM
If Lane 2 Gemini didn't come first, Lane 3 always came first (where the top seed normally should be)

BuK Boats
Sat AM first place results were: lanes 1, 5, 1, 3, 3, 5
Sat PM First place were lanes 3, 5, 1, 3, 3, 5,

5/12 1st place in lane 3
4/12 1st place in lane 5
3/12 1st place in lane 1

Certainly, more finishes in lane 3 - but nothing sticking out like a significant 10 second differences for teams.

and YAY for the Eh Team...
they are my FAVORITE Seniors team, and when I become a senior, they will be my first choice to race with!

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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2009, 08:47:18 AM »

Overall it was a good weekend to work on technique, race strategy, and have fun.  Thanks Bernie for the kudo's and we look forward to paddling with and against Magnum (they have really stepped up this year and deserve the praise and results) and Master's of the Dragon Zone.  We'll see if these two older crews can keep this crew (Magnum) in check  Shocked

Gearing up for Alcan ... should be an awesome event.

Also a big thanks to Eric Hamber Eternal Dragon for all their help yesterday.  Our junior program has been a struggle this year but with a few helping paddlers from Eric Hamber we manged to pull off a 3rd place finish in the A Finals on Sunday Morning.

Thanks everyone.

PS: Ben!  Where are the pics?  I'm trying to convince my SI Black team to use me as a caller instead of a paddler! I think I got a whole new career ahead of me!
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