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« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2008, 11:03:53 AM »

Just a note about the newest ladder rankings I wanted to mention: There were a few women and junior teams that raced in mixed heats before Alcan and were included in ladder. But for festival, these teams ended up racing in their respective divisions, so their ranking was unchanged even though they had raced. To fix this, I'll be seperating them out into seperate women's and junior ladders. Look for these new ladders posted sometime next week. Hopefully, I can get them up at the same time I'll be updating the mixed ladder with post-Whistler results.
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« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2008, 12:23:20 PM »

We've had Whistler, Nanaimo, Harrison and Richmond pass us by already and I was wondering..Any news on when the update of the rankings will happen?

Thanks BlueStreak! Very Happy

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« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2008, 12:41:43 PM »

Yes... its time to time to update those rankings. They'll be up soon.... For real this time. Smile
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« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2008, 02:43:48 PM »

Rankings have been updated with Whistler, Nanaimo and Harrison results. *whew* (Richmond results don't seem to be out yet).

If there are any teams out there that combined for one of the recent races but would like their results be counted under one of their original team's ranking, let me know.

Next update will most likely be after the Victoria festival.

Sorry, haven't had the time to make a seperate women's division standings yet

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« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2008, 02:14:14 PM »

Richmond reslults should be on their website to-day.
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« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2008, 02:18:34 PM »

That was fast BlueStreak!  Very Happy
Awesome job on sorting through the raw data!

Many thanks!
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« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2008, 03:44:55 PM »

Thanks Bluestreak for all your work in this.  One suggestion?  Would it be possible to include a column with the number of races a team has been in?  I think this would add some context and provide a better picture of a team's ranking.

Yes?No?Maybe?

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« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2008, 09:14:59 PM »

Would it be possible to include a column with the number of races a team has been in?  I think this would add some context and provide a better picture of a team's ranking.

I second that idea! 
Listing the number of events raced would definitely give a better picture of a team's ranking.
(it also helps to see which teams raced only 1 events such as RTA only)

Pretty please BlueStreak? Smiley with tongue out
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« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2008, 07:37:38 PM »

Actually, I was planning on adding a 'number of races' column for the next update! So there's no need to plead... (well, maybe a little is ok Wink)
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« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2008, 02:27:11 PM »

The Richmond results are up on their website. It might change the rankings somewhat...
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« Reply #40 on: July 31, 2008, 09:59:25 PM »

Ok ... I know there is no such thing as a truly recognized ranking system but Blue Streak has done a great job gathering all the information out there.  That said what does a team have to do to move up on this ladder!!!  We came in first at Harrison and now at Vernon.  That has to stand for something ... doesn't it?

 Laughing ... As I once read "no one has to tell you how good you are ... you either know it or you don't."

Great job BlueStreak!
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« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2008, 12:09:06 AM »

Digger,

You gotta beat a team that is above you to take over their spot. That is how one moves up on the standings. I think at the beginning of this thread it is mentioned. I know I saw an explanation on here somewhere. So yea you beat some pretty decent teams at Harrison but you were already ahead of them. You should have gone to where ever those 9 other teams ahead of you race and see if you can leap frog them in the standings.

Although in the alternative at Harrison you are the team that teams below you would like to get ahead of. Had you not placed first in the grand final you would have been bumped down 1 spot and the team ahead of you would inherit your spot and be in 10th place. So in essence you defended your standing at Harrison.

I hope this explains it right. If not I am sure someone will definitely say how it really works.

And Digger, good luck to you and your crew in climbing up the rankings the rest of this season.
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« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2008, 12:46:09 AM »

BernMan is absolutely correct.

Had Magnum beaten you in the final race, we would have taken SI Black's #10 ranking and you would have been bumped down to #11.

DiggerPig, your team needs to beat Kai and get ranking #3  Smiley with tongue out (or alternately, if you beat Without Warning, you'll move up to #8)
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« Reply #43 on: August 01, 2008, 11:39:24 PM »

Fair Enough!  Although something should be said for consistency.  That being said I take it for what it's worth.  Now we have to go get Kia ...  Shocked  Laughing
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« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2008, 03:50:32 PM »

Yes Bernman has it right.

It's like at some of the paddle clubs... they rank the individual paddlers based on time trials.  If you want to move up, then you challenge somebody above you.  You beat them, you take their place.

By having Sudden Impact go to Harrison, where none of the 9 higher teams were... Sudden Impact could NOT move up.  But if they lost, they would set themselves up for moving d-o-w-n.

If you want to move up, you have to go after the higher ranked teams, by entering the same races they are entered in.  "CRUSIN' For a BRUISIN'"

But if Sudden Impact goes to Victoria, it sounds like they will be going up against a Gorging Dragons/Kai Ikaika loaded team.  This rankings system doesn't take into account team roster consistency, as Dragon Boat Canada is trying to do, by having a certain percentage of your roster attend each of the races, as you work to qualify for worlds or nationals.
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