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Topic: Alcan Dragon Boat Festival Post-Mortem (Read 91342 times)
Backward Rowing
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Re: Sunday Alcan
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Reply #15 on:
June 17, 2007, 10:22:53 PM »
I liked this one better than previous ones I have been at.
First, no admission fees allowed people I know to cheer me on. Feels good to have community people around. Having the large screen in the stage area brought the focus back on racing, instead of the countless entertainers they had in previous years that had very little to do with the sport.
Second, the tents. It was frustrating not knowing if we would be getting tents, but that is beyond the control of the festival. Unless we want the fees to go up dramatically, I think this was acceptable. The racers' village security was a lot left to be desired, as a lot of unauthorized people still floated in and out the area.
Third, the race officials. They seemed to know what was going on. No real foul-ups at the docks. The races went ahead of schedule, but I think that is better than behind schedule. Results from Saturday were posted fairly late (in comparison to Sunday where results were posted within a short period of time after each race). I am also glad I have not had the chance to test the medical emergency services!
Fourth, the equipment. God, the paddles they were lending out were in fairly bad shape. Some of the pfd's were at least newer, and did not have that smell to it. Luckily our team uses our own paddles (as should you all, for bare minimum, the right size paddle). The boats themselves were good. BuK, I liked. Gemini, I still have friction burn from the metal pipe installed along the gunwale.
Fifth, the grid. With what I have seen, the grid seemed to have worked. Out of town teams are hard to gauge as they sometimes do not come with their team, but rather a core with loaner paddlers, or they change their traditional name to a "traveling team" name; therefore, destroying any way of seeding them properly. We could change it, but I challenge anyone out there to create a better system.
Sixth, the friendliness. This has little to do with the volunteers and race officials. As usual, Kerry did a wonderful job of getting us going. His insight with a lot of teams from experience shows (in comparison to lacklustre traffic controllers in other sports I have been in). It may seem dumb, but in comparison to Victoria & Nanaimo, paddlers did not seem to congratulate one another as much, very few paddlers arches . . . just less rah-rah kind of stuff.
Seventh, the rain. Something uncontrollable, but it sucked. On Sunday, it was overcast.
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Re: Alcan Dragon Boat Festival Post-Mortem
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June 17, 2007, 10:41:25 PM »
I meant to put this in the Sunday Alcan thread.
Team Vortex after Rec B Championship Final
Rec B Championship Final
Comp A Final snapshot
Gorging Dragons after their last race
Sights on the shore - peddlers of caffeine
Why I paddle? For hardware and beer.
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Re: Alcan Dragon Boat Festival Post-Mortem
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June 17, 2007, 11:00:51 PM »
I found the race grid this year interesting. AS Chaos put it , it is up to us as a DB community to help and offer insight on the out of town teams as it is true they can greatly affect the outcome and rankings. I like the new advancement scheme as it kept the strong teams together and offered an opportunity to teams with a tough first race to advance to the comp round in their second race. Case in point. Sudden impact, who despite a 3rd place showing in their first race, came back with an impressive victory in the their second heat and made it to the comp round where they advanced to Comp B. In the old way if u came second or third in your first race you were basically screwed as the next heat would have a top 16 ranked team (or winning seeded team) in that heat. This way with all the winning teams in the first round grouped together and advanced to the comp semis , a team that finishes second now face another second or third place team (that made of had a tough draw) and give them an opportunity to get a first and the valuable points it gives. Having a wide spread in a heat does not indicate that the rankings were off. Many factors come into play (wake from the faster boats, Being in a gem )-: ,having a crappy race are also factors. I think the times in all the comp to higher rec divisions was well seeded and the races pretty close. No matter how good u are in the pre-regattas meet jack S**T when it comes to race day. Whom ever executes their race plan flawlessy will come out on top. It was a bit of a shocker that the NY/DC and top made from Calgary were not ranked but like Backward rowing mentioned, no one knows what kind of team they will bring when they are travelling.
All that aside it was a good festival (free is GREAT!) Good food this year . crappy weather but it could have been a lot worse! and I liked the big screen (when I finally saw it)
I'll post some pics up later tomorrow but I know Photog was snapping most of Sunday and will be the man!
Also I like to add the races ran very smoothly considering the amount of drift and collisions we had this time around
(most involved te BUKS...) I like the even playing field created by having BUKS and Gems (though all BUKS would be cool!)
See u all in Nanaimo or Harrison next!
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Re: Alcan Dragon Boat Festival Post-Mortem
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Reply #18 on:
June 18, 2007, 06:24:00 AM »
Seeding is only for preliminary heats, after the first two heats, all the top teams will advance to their respective competitive level. If your crew is relying on seeding to advance or hope to have a less competitive heat then your crew will be eliminated eventually.
For Out of town teams TopMade, JETSTART, Portland Paddling Club, WASABI and NY-DCH typically has competed well wherever they travel to. Most of those crews are large enough to bring their own people and rarely borrow paddlers unless they are sending multiple crews.
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PrairiePaddleChick
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Re: Alcan Dragon Boat Festival Post-Mortem
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June 18, 2007, 08:04:24 AM »
Anybody have the results? I don't see them posted yet.
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Re: Alcan Dragon Boat Festival Post-Mortem
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June 18, 2007, 08:54:42 AM »
Most of them are listed at the bottom of page one of this topic. Still missing Comp A and Comp C results however.
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Re: Alcan Dragon Boat Festival Post-Mortem
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June 18, 2007, 09:02:21 AM »
Quote from: Magnum on June 18, 2007, 08:54:42 AM
Most of them are listed at the bottom of page one of this topic. Still missing Comp A and Comp C results however.
i saw in the 24 newspaper they posted all the top 3 results of each division. so i assume that is official?! i am kind of baffled by the results... why did it take so long for them to release it? and a lot of my teammates thought we would medal for sure... *bleh*
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Re: Alcan Dragon Boat Festival Post-Mortem
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June 18, 2007, 09:05:39 AM »
can anyone post the results from the 24 paper?
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Re: Alcan Dragon Boat Festival Post-Mortem
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June 18, 2007, 09:15:13 AM »
Thanks, I should have reviewed page 1 more carefully.
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Re: Alcan Dragon Boat Festival Post-Mortem
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June 18, 2007, 09:28:00 AM »
http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/
to download today's 24
http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/pdf/cover.pdf
Page 18 and 19 has the top 3 for several divisions. Page 3 has a summary of Alcan.
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Re: Saturday Alcan
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June 18, 2007, 09:52:52 AM »
Quote from: Backward Rowing on June 16, 2007, 11:08:08 PM
False Creek
He may be ridiculously good looking... but not quite false creek.
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Re: Alcan Dragon Boat Festival Post-Mortem
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June 18, 2007, 10:36:10 AM »
Comp A was not posted due to a protest being filed by the Master's of D'Zone. Apparently lane 1, Pemberton Bald Eagles, was in their lane riding wash. Not sure what the outcome was. Any updates???
Congratulations to Miss Kamini Jain and her crews!!! Well done for all crew members of FCRCC
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Re: Alcan Dragon Boat Festival Post-Mortem
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June 18, 2007, 10:39:49 AM »
Well, this was my first Alcan, and I thought it was a great festival! Puppy is the finest Marshall in the history of the sport!
My one gripe has nothing to do with the officials, weather, or competition: Air Canada lost one of our coach's bags, and it just happened to be the one big bag containing the entire team's paddles! It's still missing in action
A HUGE THANK YOU TO LARD, who loaned us their paddles for one of our early races!
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Re: Alcan Dragon Boat Festival Post-Mortem
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June 18, 2007, 11:07:30 AM »
4th Place FCRCC B (2:01 and change), 5th Masters of D'Zone (2:03 and change), 6th W3Media (2:06 I believe), 7th Permberton (2:08 after penalty), 8th DCH (2:08)...don't have the times in front of me.
Pemberton was assigned a 2 second penalty which moved them to 7th place (they were 6th).
DCH was racing as exhibition in Comp A, as they requested prior to the race that they were going to kneel (not allowed in festivals that follow IDBF rules). They came 8th in either case so not sure the kneeling helped them that much.
As for the rankings, out of the top 8 teams to make Competitive only Pacific Reach did not make Comp A (won Comp B, tough semi final). For the next 8 teams, most of them made Comp B, a few did not but overall what the rankers had as the top 32 teams were the top 32 teams.
For those that do not like the rankings, then I suggest you try doing them one year. It is not as easy as you think and it takes an alot of time to do it. You should be thanking the rankers (7 of them in total) for their hard work. In case some of you think the rankers is a closed group who sit around drinking coffee and seeing who they can screw up you are dead wrong. We had rankers from Vancouver, Victoria, and beyond this year in addition we had an excellent cross section of paddlers and coaches (all were paddlers and there were 3 coaches).
For those teams that questioned where they were ranked, I stand by the rankers as you ended up generally where the rankers had placed. You know who you are
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Until next year, happy racing whereever your next event is.
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Re: Alcan Dragon Boat Festival Post-Mortem
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June 18, 2007, 11:17:09 AM »
Some Random shots at the ferstival.
There were event photographers there so I did not want to infringe but managed to snap a few anyways...enjoy
Comp A Final
Lots of close races
Not usually a good sign when the steers falls down....because....
this happens!
Luckily no one was injured except for the Dragon's head
The Masked Man returns!
Focus!
He'll have a lot more up later I am sure! Da Man!
Awesome job Water'd Edge! and Great Boats
Like no other Venue....
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