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Topic: Why not learn to outrigger? (Read 23923 times)
DiggerPig
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Re: Why not learn to outrigger?
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Reply #15 on:
March 11, 2007, 08:49:45 PM »
Thanks paddleboy ... I'm 207 ...
To be honest the best boat hands down for our water is the Hurricane .Its the fastest oc1 out there in flat water and nothing else will touch it but you need to be under say 185 lbs to be safe with it as it is a very fragile oc1
Does that mean I should stick with the fusion? I hope lower my weight but 23 pounds might be a little ambitious.
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magicpaddler
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Re: Why not learn to outrigger?
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March 12, 2007, 09:03:35 AM »
I would go see Ryan at Pogue sports. He has a variaty of options. I am 205 and have a Hurricane (fiberglass model) I think the Hurricane is rated up to 210, but don't quote me on that. The Kiamana is a good boat as well.
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paddleboy
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Re: Why not learn to outrigger?
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March 12, 2007, 10:14:51 AM »
The hurricane is rated to around 180 lbs actually ...........just watch for cracks around the seat .They have been known to collapse in the area behind the seat w/ heavier paddlers w/ the carbon models .I tried the fusion and it was okay ,it felt really big though but picked up the small bumps easy .......
I'm just getting more comfortable and faster on my pegasus ......its taking a bit of time trying to figure out what makes it work best but each time I race I get a little faster than the time before .The Pegasus can take a larger paddler no problem and it may be 1 to consider but its also more pricey
I have tried the kiamana and wasn't a big fan of it.It's rigging is loose and sloppy compared to the Pegasus and Hurricane but I understand there is a new version coming out so maybe its better .
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paddleboy
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Re: Why not learn to outrigger?
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March 12, 2007, 12:59:45 PM »
So magic................used the hurricane yet ?
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magicpaddler
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Re: Why not learn to outrigger?
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Reply #19 on:
March 12, 2007, 01:55:24 PM »
According to the Maui Fiberglass website the "Designed displacement" is 210 lbs.
No I have not had mine on the water yet as there is still too much ice. Will be paddling all next week in Arizona though Can't wait. Stocking up on sunscreen and Ibuprofen.
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paddleboy
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Re: Why not learn to outrigger?
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Reply #20 on:
March 12, 2007, 04:58:41 PM »
they must have updated it ....last yr it was like 180 ...Mike obvious trusts the new seams better than before
Must be nice
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Rossifumi
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Re: Why not learn to outrigger?
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Reply #21 on:
March 13, 2007, 11:48:27 AM »
random thought...
bicycle designers in their never ending quest for light'n'strength always have to take care to strengthen the top tube.
not for the rigors of sprinting or highspeed switchbacks, but for the equally important task of supporting one's ass. Since nearly almost everyone sits on their frame at one point or another during a training ride.
I assume somewhere along the way these OC designers put some thought into building up the durability of everyday rigging/de-rigging, and general abuse.
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Colossus
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Re: Why not learn to outrigger?
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March 14, 2007, 11:23:29 PM »
when you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME.
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pogue sports
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Re: Why not learn to outrigger?
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Reply #23 on:
March 15, 2007, 11:17:30 AM »
I have seen some topics going around that I might be able to help with in an none product way. The trick to sizing yourself for a boat is not weight first, but almost last.
no matter what boat your are in, hull design and style of paddling will affect you the most. Second thing is size, more than weight. If you are 6' 6", but 190 lbs, a Hurricane may be too small, but if you are 6' and 210, a Hurricane may be fine.
Hurricane is rated 190 and less, but top guys are running at 220 in Hawaii and kick ass.
Kaku Boats are rated at 180 + and the new Kaianalu is 180 -
Huki is the most flexible where as long as you are under220 it is a good ride.
Outrigger Connection is the same where the fuze or Fusion is rated at 180 - 190 -+.
Here is the kicker, a Kaku or Outrigger Connections will be fight in flat water which is where we paddle. Regardless of your weight. You can add the Pegasus to this list a well.
Huki and Hurricane are great flat and bumpy water boats. One boat kills me and my ass, the other doesn't.
Find a boat that is rated for the type of paddling you want, then make sure it is comforatable, and then and only if you are over 200 -210 should weight really be an issue.
Hope this help. Feel free to call to chat about any boat or tech info, I love talking boats
Ryan Pogue
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Rossifumi
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Re: Why not learn to outrigger?
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Reply #24 on:
March 15, 2007, 12:10:34 PM »
Ryan, when are the kaianalu's available?
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Re: Why not learn to outrigger?
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Reply #25 on:
March 17, 2007, 07:01:55 PM »
You may want to email Ryan directly...he doesn't come on here often...wow-this thread went a lot further than I thought it would!
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Re: Why not learn to outrigger?
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March 18, 2007, 12:28:35 PM »
Quote from: Colossus on March 14, 2007, 11:23:29 PM
when you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME.
you colossus ass!
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Colossus
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Re: Why not learn to outrigger?
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March 18, 2007, 03:17:30 PM »
Quote from: rightarm on March 18, 2007, 12:28:35 PM
Quote from: Colossus on March 14, 2007, 11:23:29 PM
when you assume, you make an ASS out of U and ME.
you colossus ass!
quit the useless banter on the forums, or i'll post photos of last night. haha
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Never give a match up halfway through. Never say that you do not feel up to it, that your condition is bad, and throw in the towel. Fight to the very end, always looking for your chance to break through.
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