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[BlueStreak]

2006 Alcan Regatta Sat - there were only 24 teams in that 'regatta' not 99.  Therefore, no bonus points should be awarded for that race. 

I not sure where the 99 came from because even if you combine all 4 groupings that would still only amount to 96 teams. 

It says 99...well.... because I mis-counted. Thanks for the correction...  

[gvinluan]

IMHO...I believe the the tab up top should be labelled "Points Standings" and not "Rankings"...

1)  To have ranking the way it is done right now, ALL teams have to compete equally in all the same races....like a circuit...the way CHAMP, IRL, Pro Snowboard, Skiing, etc...is done...to be able to rank accordingly

In dragonboating, since the circuit format does not exist, it would be unfair to rank teams accordingly if we stay with the current format because not all teams race in the same festival/regatta; some regatta/festival draws more competition than the others; and some are bigger than others...

The way it should be done is like how it is in the PGA, Tennis or even NCAA/Highschool...

In the PGA or Tennis format, you have a separate list for money leaders (point leaders in our case) and another for overall ranking...both are inconsistent in drawing everyone to each tournament so overall ranking is based on player activity (how often do they compete) and 1 on 1 records between all competitors.  Boxing uses this in some ways...

NCAA is also based on team activity and 1 on 1...and also based on previous years ranking....

If you look at the standings right now, teams like Kai Ikaika, FCRCC mixed2 or even the Laoyam Eagles deserve better ranking positions....even as mentioned...teams like Scotia (not on the list) deserve the recognition to be on an overall ranking list.  "As good as they are", Scotia is far from a "one hit wonder team" and have shown consistency over the years as one of the top teams in any festival!!!  Besides, this current format does not eliminate the one hit wonders as I still see a few on the list...

But nonetheless, something to definitely work on...again IMHO...8)

[BernMan]

Forget it. I found what I was looking for. Sorry about that. Thanks for reading!

[Backward Rowing]

Standings versus rankings...
If I were a betting kind of person, I would want websites on each team on the list to show the roster, each persons abilities & histories (including drummer and steerer), where they were sitting in which heat, etc.  just like when I watch TSN, but alas, teams don't get millions of dollars, the marketing machines are not out there to do the stats.  With all its short-comings listed on the thread, it still is a pretty decent way of seeing at least where you compare against other western teams.

If you really want to see nerding out over stats, check out this website: http://www.dragonboat-truerank.blogspot.com/  It attempts to rank the top 100 teams in Ontario and Quebec.  Blue Streak, I appreciate the work you put into the dragonboatwest ranking, but you have to appreciate the crazy time on data entry for the Power Demon ([email protected]) has done.  And no, I don't think we can use their method because they don't have to account for major tidal differences that we experience on the Pacific Ocean.

[BlueStreak]

If you really want to see nerding out over stats, check out this website: http://www.dragonboat-truerank.blogspot.com/  It attempts to rank the top 100 teams in Ontario and Quebec.  Blue Streak, I appreciate the work you put into the dragonboatwest ranking, but you have to appreciate the crazy time on data entry for the Power Demon ([email protected]) has done.  And no, I don't think we can use their method because they don't have to account for major tidal differences that we experience on the Pacific Ocean.

Oh yes... I've seen that page. They must have one big mother-of-all-spreadsheets over there.

[SilverGS]

Is there any thought to adding the Alberta Races and Teams in as well to the Ranking/Standing List?

[Secret Weapon]

How many bonus points do teams get for participating in the WCC's?  I think Roli, Pac Reach and Layoam should now be moved to the top of the list.  I'd say put FCRCC there as well but they already own top spot!

[vicpaddler]

Hard to put them ahead of the GD's since in the only head to head meeting of the season (Alcan) the GD's beat all of the mentioned teams. (except False Creek and they are already #1) Now if they were coming to Victoria and beat the GD's you might have a case.

[Eaglepaddler15]

I only just found this site when looking for pictures of us in toronto i am a paddler on the laoyam eagles and i was amzed when i saw us ninth in the west out of ADULT TEAMS id also like to thank false creek team for putting up with us at toronto and for helping us bring home golds for the west!!!!!!! Well see ya at ALCAN next year!

[BlueStreak]

Is there any thought to adding the Alberta Races and Teams in as well to the Ranking/Standing List?

No plans currently, but Alberta sorta counts as part of the west so we might start tracking them one day. We're counting the Calgary festival in our rankings cause a good number of BC teams went over there to compete.

How many bonus points do teams get for participating in the WCC's?

Currently, we don't give points for participating at the WCC. Its an interesting idea though... its something we can consider when we revise the rankings for next year.

[Secret Weapon]

Well Miss Vicpaddler Gorging should be awarded bonus points as well since many members from their crew were on False Creek.  Saw many a Gorging jerseys walking around.  Then again all the teams had imported members from other crews to fill rosters.  Still good on all West Coast and Canadian teams for cleaning up in the medals department!

[Colossus]

Well Miss Vicpaddler Gorging should be awarded bonus points as well since many members from their crew were on False Creek.  Saw many a Gorging jerseys walking around.  Then again all the teams had imported members from other crews to fill rosters. 

i think you saw the same 4 shirts multiple times....    and the victoria guys weren't technically imported for the CCs... they were on the mens team only, and were on the mens team in alcan as well.  and before the question is asked, yes they were attending practices here with FC

[Dumber]

Okay, I'm confused as well.  Swordfish is three for three, yet they placed sixth in Rec A at Alcan.  So how does that compute?

(And no disrespect to Swordfish.  Great team, love paddling against them, hope to race them at Kelowna).

D

[Secret Weapon]

Thanks Colossus, I was aware of that but I also saw a Gorging girl, Dragonaut men and Hugh Fisher jump on the Cdn National Sr Mens team.  Can't wait to hear how Gorging does in the North American Club Crews in Welland.  Anyone else know who's going?

[Colossus]

Can't wait to hear how Gorging does in the North American Club Crews in Welland.  Anyone else know who's going?

no one is going anymore.  cancelled.