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[Rossifumi]

internet warriors.. ai.. I might of missed it skimming through these essays but if memory serves (spoke with someone who knows), the 06 Championship mix must be the same (or a high % retained) crew as the Race-Off mix.

Regardless, does someone actually have a problem with a crew trying to get the best paddlers they can get before the Race-off?  Funny, that's their business.  Anyhoo, keeping on topic the Race-off is FCRCC's to lose.

[Secret Weapon]

Just to set the record straight regarding Pac Reach and the Jericho paddlers... from what I know the Pac Reach mens teams was short two paddlers and did not sit any of their crew out to make room for these two.  Big difference between that and FCRCC practices of sitting out committed members for temporary stronger ones.  Don't you think Tiger?  Also there is a HUGE difference between brining in paddlers for a regular festival such as Alcan and an IDBF event as Club Crew race offs.  I still don't believe in sitting out members that have been with you since the beginning of the season and bringing in outside talent.  Not to pick on you Tiger but I don't get the comparison between Paddlboy on a comp team and GD boys on FCRCC.  I think you were scraping the bottom of the barrel with that one.  No offence

[DBWTim]

Unofficial Results from Day 1

Western Regional Raceoff
Women's 250m - Final
1st - FCRCC women
2nd - some other team I don't know the name

Men's 250m - Final
1st - FCRCC men's

Mixed 250m - Final
1st - FCRCC mixed
2nd - FCRCC Roli Open
3rd - Pacific Reach (Did not finish) - they lost control with 50m to go in the race

Masters 250m - Final
1st - Pacific Reach
2nd - FCRCC Roli Canada Masters (beat roli by 0.37 seconds)

[hoover]

Ouch .. looks like somebody let the dog/seal out on PR in the 250

[Hammerhead]

Anyone have the results for this past weekend?

What mens teams raced in the event for the WRCC?

[DBWTim]

Day 2

Women 500m - Final
1st - FCRCC Womens
2nd - KDBC Just Add Water
FCRCC Women will represent western Canada for WCCC for women's division

Mixed 500m - Final
1st - FCRCC Mixed
2nd - Pac Reach
3rd - Roli Open
FCRCC Mixed will represent Western Canada for WCCC for Mixed division

Masters 500m - Final
1st - Pac Reach
2nd - Roli Masters
Pacific Reach will represent Western Canada for WCCC for Masters division

[seaboy]

The race off was exciting to watch. Too bad PR wiped out on the 250m, they were leading and a win would have forced a tie breaker with FCRCC. They even beat FCRCC in the first 500m race.

In the master's final ROLI ate up nearly a boat length deficit and almost caught PR. PR looked tired, probably because most of them are on both their open and masters teams and that was their fourth race of the day.

I wonder why PR ran their masters crew with an empty seat? Hmm, maybe all the ringers were already snatched up by other teams!  

[paddleboy]

Well I just want to say congrats again to FCRCC .

 It was a tough go and unfortunate for us that we did lose control. In the 250 meter final PR was ahead by 3 seats w/ about 60-70 meters to go when we took a large wave to the side that sent us sliding and we were unable to regain control .The dynasty's are unforgiving and even w/ one of the best steersmen out there and he did everything he could ,  it was not recoverable .

 In the the 1st 500 meter PR beat FCRCC w/ a 1.55 to FCRCC's 1.56 .Every race PR and FCRCC were pretty much head to head but in the final FCRCC laid down a 1.52 to PR's 1.55 taking home the right to the premier mixed .

 In the masters PR won every race .Roli put up a good race and the PR crew was tired as most were racing both the premier mixed as well as the masters . PR raced w/ 19 paddlers instead of 20 which definately played a little havic on us w weight in the dynasty's .The dynasty's are super sensitive to weight distribution as most found out this past weekend .

 All in all awesome racing w/ some super fast times . It was a great festival overall and the course is awesome .The only problem was wind on the saturday afternoon which made for big waves .It's the only time ,other than outrigger ,where myself and teammates took waves in the face and I found myself having to hold my breath as they came over the gunnel ..............it was like a repeat of white rock only a little worse.

 I did happen to see my fellow forum poster " Guido " on the Roli masters boat. Hmmm , I wonder if that had any influence on his predictions

 I would also like to thank all those out of town teams that supported PR and cheered us on the whole weekend...........that was so awesome guys !!! Having teams backing you up the whole weekend was great ...thanks again for supporting us ..... it meant alot and we felt it .

[paddleboy]

Paddleboy, you got in a nice rant with your former team but then you went to Pac Reach.  If your logic holds I don't think you should have been able to paddle with Pac Reach that first year since you were on another team last year.

Now is Pac Reach taking their Jericho paddlers with them?  If so then I don't think they are part of Pac Reach?  But in Alcan, Pac Reach had Jericho paddlers paddling with them.  So Paddleboy how could you possibly be on a team that brings on paddlers that have not come up through the ranks?  Doesn't that make you as bad as a compnay bringing in scap labour to get a job done.  I am going to call the paddler's union and we will start to picket the Pac Reach tent at the festivals  

 Well to let you in on a secret......................I have been w/ Pac Reach for over 2 yrs now so not sure where you are going w/ that  

[adbf]

Well I just want to say congrats again to FCRCC .

 It was a tough go and unfortunate for us that we did lose control. In the 250 meter final PR was ahead by 3 seats w/ about 60-70 meters to go when we took a large wave to the side that sent us sliding and we were unable to regain control .The dynasty's are unforgiving and even w/ one of the best steersmen out there and he did everything he could ,  it was not recoverable .

 In the the 1st 500 meter PR beat FCRCC w/ a 1.55 to FCRCC's 1.56 .Every race PR and FCRCC were pretty much head to head but in the final FCRCC laid down a 1.52 to PR's 1.55 taking home the right to the premier mixed .

 In the masters PR won every race .Roli put up a good race and the PR crew was tired as most were racing both the premier mixed as well as the masters . PR won using 19 paddlers instead of 20 which definately played a little havic on PR w weight in the dynasty's .The dynasty's are super sensitive to weight distribution as most found out this past weekend .

 All in all awesome racing w/ some super fast times . It was a great festival overall and the course is awesome .The only problem was wind on the saturday afternoon which made for big waves .It's the only time ,other than outrigger ,where myself and teammates took waves in the face and I found myself having to hold my breath as they came over the gunnel ..............it was like a repeat of white rock only a little worse.

 I did happen to see my fellow forum poster " Guido " on the Roli masters boat. Hmmm , I wonder if that had any influence on his predictions

 I would also like to thank all those out of town teams that supported PR and cheered us on the whole weekend...........that was so awesome guys !!! Having teams backing you up the whole weekend was great ...thanks agin for supporting PR ..... it meant alot to us and we felt it .

Well I watched all of the race off races from the sideline and some were very exciting:

a.  PR lost the 250m and it was hard to watch.  They had the most amazing start and for it to go by the wayside so late was sad.  They were not 2-3 seats ahead when they lost control, more like 1 seat but hey for some people length matters   .  Not sure why they ran back to the sidelines with there tail between their legs (get the dog comparison) but it cost them any chance of winning premier.  This was a great race until the correction.
b.  no men's races which was surprising to everybody.  I heard that everyone found out that day (Saturday) that there would not be a men's race.  I also heard, from a PR man   , that the PR men found out Friday night that they had withdrawn.  Not sure that is true but that is what they said.  Kind of crappy that FCRCC had to go all the way to Calgary for nothing.
c.  women's races were good and it was excellent to see a team step forward to challenge FCRCC women.  Hope Kelowna builds on this and competes in 2 years.
d.  premier mixed was good to watch, especially the 250m.  The 500m was not that impressive (the final).  PR gave up in the 500m final (quite obvious) which was sad to see since they did win the qualifier but it was the thing to do since they screwed themselves in the 250m by not finishing.   Was great seeing 3 teams competing, clearly FCRCC and PR were the favorites but it was nice to see other teams step up and take a shot.  
e. senior mixed in the end was the most closely raced series.  Nothing really separated the 2 teams.  Roli had the 250m in the bag until they rated up on their finish (bad move Roli), lost it in the last 20 feet.  In the 500m PR was out ahead but Roli fought back to only lose by a little.  The most amazing part was that I have been to a number of the regattas and festivals and everytime PR raced Roli, PR blew Roli away on the start.  Not this time, PR and Roli were matched in starts.  Roli clearly changed their start and other aspects, I am sure PR did not think Roli would be a threat.  Paddleboy can you confirm   .

Paddleboy weren't you on the PR masters team?  If so how would you know they were a boat length behind.  Aren't you suppose to be looking in your own boat   .  It was interesting your comments about the 19 paddlers.  I hear Roli had 6 paddlers who raced even more than PR paddlers (all on the FCRCC premier teams and the festival teams) and then the rest paddle twice a week so putting a team who practicies for 4 years 5 times a week against a team that practices twice a week is not really fair but they were excellent races to watch.  

It was interesting to watch which teams were routing for which team to win (if that was the case PR would have lost, sorry PR but teams had something against you this weekend).

Overall, the best teams won and I congratulate FCRCC and PR for jobs well done as there were some amazing races this weekend.

[paddleboy]

In the master's final ROLI ate up nearly a boat length deficit and almost caught PR. PR looked tired, probably because most of them are on both their open and masters teams and that was their fourth race of the day.

I wonder why PR ran their masters crew with an empty seat? Hmm, maybe all the ringers were already snatched up by other teams!  

 Hmmm , I didn't make that quote......maybe you should read more carefully before you post next time

 Actually PR had alot of support in Calgary....... magic paddler will tell you that .PR was even talked about in the Calgary Herald on the Friday edition which was really nice to see

 ADBF I have to love your versions of what you saw....they are alot different than the majority that were there but then again to each their own

 All teams put in good efforts and at no time do I think anyone gave up in a race ...... nice try though

[adbf]

In the master's final ROLI ate up nearly a boat length deficit and almost caught PR. PR looked tired, probably because most of them are on both their open and masters teams and that was their fourth race of the day.

I wonder why PR ran their masters crew with an empty seat? Hmm, maybe all the ringers were already snatched up by other teams!  

 Hmmm , didn't look like I made the quote......maybe you should read more carefully before you post next time

 Actually PR had alot of support in Calgary....... magic paddler will tell you that .PR was even talked about in the Calgary Herald on the saturday edition which was really nice to see

 ADBF I have to love your versions of what you saw....they are alot different than the majority that were there but then again to each their own

 All teams put in good efforts and at no time do I think anyone gave up in a race ...... nice try though

When you are talking about the majority, are you talking about PR paddlers ?

As for the my version they would be shared by many but to each its own.  Again PB how did you know you were a boat ahead of Roli if you were paddling?  Is it that sixth sense or a third eye   ?

If you ask the majority of paddlers, your team gave up at the 250m in the 500m.  Very obivious from shore.  If not then FCRCC was the best team by a boat length.   Hmmmm, maybe you are right, FCRCC is a much better team than PR or we give PR too much credit for trying to stay close with FCRCC .  Which one is it?

In the end, getting back on topic.  The predictions made by most were pretty accurate and I would hope all the teams were satisfied with their results.

[Rossifumi]

on the topic of having the 'blinders' on...  I'm not sure why you would hold something like this against PBoy.  (Is PB just the Fat Kid or you into Power plays or something?)

Sure a lot of crews get told this but it isn't a law.  Doesn't mean you want to be sightseeing.  Any good disciplined racer (in most any sport) knows how to 'keep tabs' on the competition without losing focus.  

Maybe in this particular instance, well you know there's a crew beside you lane-wise.  But if you can't hear them they're at least a boat-length behind you.  Maybe he just turned around after the finish line to check out where the other boats are?  Who doesn't?  Anyhow, you also don't know if he just didn't watch the race on video after  

[magicpaddler]

From a predictions point of view the original predictions were correct.  It was very unfortunate that PR had the mishap in the 250 but then @#% happens from time to time, and I think that PR did a great job to recover from that on the Sat to pull off the masters win since most of their premier team is also the masters team.  Wether or not they pulled up in the 500 or not is really irrelevent since they had no chance after the 250 problem.  What really matters  is the end result and the rest is just part of racing wether its dragon boat or cars.  After the fact it doesn't really matter.

On to other things.  PR had almost all of the Calgary teams pulling for them all weekend.  Most of this is because they were interacting with the Calgary teams off the water where FCRCC and ROLI pretty much stuck to themselves.  This also got them some of the newspaper press as well.  PR got a whole bunch of fans in Calgary after this event.  And I must say they look dam good in orange.

[Rossifumi]

From a predictions point of view the original predictions were correct.  It was very unfortunate that PR had the mishap in the 250 but then @#% happens from time to time, and I think that PR did a great job to recover from that on the Sat to pull off the masters win since most of their premier team is also the masters team.  Wether or not they pulled up in the 500 or not is really irrelevent since they had no chance after the 250 problem.  What really matters  is the end result and the rest is just part of racing wether its dragon boat or cars.  After the fact it doesn't really matter.

On to other things.  PR had almost all of the Calgary teams pulling for them all weekend.  Most of this is because they were interacting with the Calgary teams off the water where FCRCC and ROLI pretty much stuck to themselves.  This also got them some of the newspaper press as well.  PR got a whole bunch of fans in Calgary after this event.  And I must say they look dam good in orange.

Ah well good on PR then.