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[mildseven]

As a paddler, all I want from a festival is:

1.  A fair course which means measured so that all lanes are the same length
2.  A proper starting line and starts
3.  A proper finish that elminates any questions from teams
4.  Proper officiating to elminate what teams may attempt on the and off the race course (washriding, set rosters, etc).
5.  Proper marshalling and a pleasant staff, if it is paid or volunteer the staff needs to work with the teams.

I think it's reasonable to expect:

1. A fair course in as much as the weather, current and other non-controllable elements permit
2. A well-marked starting line and a starter who knows what he or she is doing
3. A well-marked finish line with fixed shoreline markers (which should be clearly identified in the race package), judges who know what they are doing, and a finish line camera (but perhaps not a fancy photo-finish system).
4. Good officiating
5. Marshalling according to the schedule and, if the races fall behind, delays clearly communicated to the teams.
6. Human errors will occur and we'll be back on the forums to bitch and moan.

As for friendly dock crews, I've been a volunteer on the docks for a couple of events and was quite surprised by the number of teams that don't seem to know how to get in or out of a boat. If you want to bring order to the chaos, you have to "crack the whip", so to speak. I like to think that I did so in as friendly a manner as possible.

[turtle_turtle]

So many of the newbs on this forum don't seem to understand the substance of what we're talking about here.  I don't blame them, there are like 8 long pages of replies.  If you weren't following from the beginning, you're not gonna go back and read the whole thing.  So just an idea so others can understand easier, but can someone change the subject of this thread to something like, "Negligent officiating makes for unhappy paddlers."    Just to minimize any confusion.

By the way tiger, excellent expectations!  Now why can't all race officials have the same mentality as you?  8)

[Colossus]

we're not even talking about the situation itself here.  we're talking about the circumstances; that there was no real way of knowing who won any of the races that were tight.  we had to go on 3 pairs of eyes all watching the finish line from different angles.  THAT is what this whole thread is about.  stop dragging who won what and "you're all sour grapes and sore losers" into it

cool, i get to quote myself.   Tiny, re-read that.  the reason you seem to hear lots of comments about people from the island, is that its mainly peopole from the island who are jumping on the defensive about this topic without actually reading what its about in the first place.  


again, friends of friends who get friends' panties in a bunch.

[Photog]

For starters, who cares if someone is a "newbie" it makes no difference whether someone has been coming to this site for 10 years or just started coming here today.

Yes it does matter. Veterans are more likely to have a good ability to read before posting, unlike yourself.  

No matter what, a person has a right to their own opinion without being made to feel like an idiot by childish replies and comments.

Good point. That is why people are complaining about a lack of an official finish line photo/video system, which is considered standard equipment these days. And you (and other newbies like you) are the ones bashing members here who are voicing their "right to their own opinion". Way to go and please stay away from this site until you learn to read.

Being much younger then probably everyone on this site, it is appauling to see the lack of helpful critisms being said

As a contributor to the site, I am very offended by that statement, you really ought to have a look outside of this one thread. I was not at the festival, but I took the time to read every post before posting. You should do the same.

[DBWTim]

I honestly don't even know where to start in regards to moderating this thread and splitting out the posts about the actual Richmond race and the topic on proper officiating and all the other lovely stuff.

When I put everything together the other day I thought it was all related but now this thread's turned into a rather messy beast.

From this point forward, please keep this thread on the Richmond race... for thoughts on anything else (Go ROW, officiating in general, what the standard bare minimums for a race, Islanders vs. Mainlanders, etc) please start a new thread...

[grifter]

No matter what, a person has a right to their own opinion without being made to feel like an idiot by childish replies and comments.

In the end, many of you just need to pull that stick out of your ass, and deal with it, because what's done is done.

 Who cares where we live!

it seems to be all you mainlanders that have the biggest problems with the festivals and are maybe just getting discouraged because you dont want to lose to us..

You should read the thread more carefully, and then think about what you write.  The things you are complaining about that people are doing on this forum, YOU are doing yourself.

[DBWTim]

I give up... thread locked