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Question: Jumping Ship?  (Voting closed: August 26, 2003, 08:44:08 AM)
Sure... why not? It's a competition and you're there to win. - 5 (23.8%)
Jumping ship is ok only if the team isn't developing... - 12 (57.1%)
No, it's about teamwork and you have to stick with it through thick and thin. - 4 (19%)
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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2003, 03:31:00 PM »

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That's it!!! I'm Leaving the forum!!! (that's my way of saying it sucks)

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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2003, 03:41:43 PM »

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Of the discussion was the fact that many paddlers have been "jumping" ship so he/she could be on a better team, instead of trying to help develop the team year after year. I want to hear what people think about the whole "Jumping Ship" phenomenon that has been taking place in recent years.


I say let 'em go and good riddance if they want that gold medal so bad.  If the person is already contemplating of switching teams, their heart/committment is no longer with their current team, so why keep them around to disrupt the morale/chemistry/harmony of everyone else?

If the person was dedicated to the team and was skilled enough, they should be working on improving the rest of the team, and not looking for an easy ride to a gold medal.  There's no point in trying to keep a "good/skilled" paddler on a team that they don't want to be on, whether it be at the beginning or the middle of the season.
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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2003, 03:48:25 PM »

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I say let 'em go and good riddance if they want that gold medal so bad.

Here's wrench: what if the said person was the coach, captain, or founder of the team? Idea
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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2003, 10:22:46 PM »

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Here's wrench: what if the said person was the coach, captain, or founder of the team?


Oooo... I was gonna mention something about that, but since you like playing devil's advocate.   Razz   If the said person was only the coach, then it would be not so good, but not devastating because coaches can be replaced.  If the person was the team captain, then you'll have a major blow to team morale, but still survivable because you could promote someone else.  If the person was a team founder, then start looking for another team.  I see a few teams where only 1 or 2 people wear all 3 of these hats, and if that's the case, then if they leave, the team is lost unless there's a strong core of "senior" team members who are willing to take over.  Regardless, it would be a major detriment to the team as a whole.  

The way I see it, the founder/captain's job is to give the team a goal, a focus, "a vision for the future" as it were (I know, I know, it's getting melodramatic Embarassed), and it's their job to keep the team on track.  If the team founder was the one looking to jump ship, then the team may as well be dissolved.
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« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2003, 10:43:58 PM »

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Here's wrench: what if the said person was the coach, captain, or founder of the team? Idea

Honestly, the founder is of little importance unless he/she takes part-responsibility of the team since anyone can really start up a team.  Maintaining one is the hard part.
The team must have a common goal that everyone agrees on.  If not then you have different people pulling the team in different directions... and that leads the team nowhere.  The team has to pull together to go anywhere.  That is why the captain and the coach are so important since these people are responsible for setting the tone for the team.  It falls to them to set the example. I do feel that if the team has an unsuccessful season, it falls squarely onto their shoulders for that same reason.  It is their responsibility to make sure all is right on the boat... and if they fail in that regard then they are more harm than good for the team. If that is the case, then maybe it would be a better idea to find a more capable coach/captain.
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2003, 12:49:06 PM »

I agree with Photog.  It would need to be more of a personality fit (or misfit) for me to believe that jumping ship would be acceptable.
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