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[Colossus]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the crew I believe were from St. Georges...if their parents have $$ to send them there, yeah, I'd say they're rich.

i nearly went to St. Georges.  and i am FAR from being rich.  i was offered a full scholarship there.

[ZeroSix]

Course, then there was the OC6 that got flipped by a stationary dragonboat...

The dragonboat was stopped and the oc6 was comming up fast, the outrigger on the oc6 caugh the tail of the dragon boat behind the steers and flipped the boat. dumping the oc6 paddlers..... course, that's all i saw.. heard alot of swearing tho, and the DB team looked like they were juniors.

[paddleboy]

Huli drill is good for you and we all need to face the challenge every now and then .  

[BernMan]

Hey everyone.

I read through these last few posts and I believe you are talking about my team unless another team also was victimised. I was coaching Tuesday night about 2 or maybe 3 weeks ago. A team of 8 rowers did exactly what you are all talking about. We were facing east on the south side of the creek and we had just done a race piece so we were talking about it. Then out of nowhere we had barely enough time to even warn the team of rowers that they were heading straight for us. They did stop rowing but their momentum carried them forward and right into the back half of the left side of our DB. And yes the last 2 paddlers did get hit with an oar but it apparently wasn't anything too serious. I immediately jumped to the back to take a look and I was shown nothing more than an abrasion. Then their coach on a coach boat did in fact come over to ask if anyone was hurt and if anyone needed a quick ride out to the land to get assistance. And he also appologized. He was quite a ways back and therefore was unable to see it in time. Now it is possible that if some of you know my team then you should also know that the majority of them are ESL students at Columbia College. Most have at least basic understanding of the English language but maybe they were unable to explain the full details. But I do coach 2 teams and I could be wrong about which team this happened to as I coach them both on the same night. It was a strange night indeed though as there seemed to be a lot of mayhem going on.

With respect to the OC6 that flipped I too witnessed that and that was definitely when I was coaching my ESL team. We were very near where this happened and I will have to say it was the DB steersperson who screwed up there partially and the OC6. Both were smack in the middle of the creek and things like that are surely bound to happen. Yes there was a lot of swearing and I even offered them assistance knowing full well they didn't need it as we all practice huli drills at some point of our outrigger paddling days. And I think it may have been a junior team but I did not know who they were or who their coach was.

All I wanted to say is that we all seem to agree that we should all respect the rules of the "water". Stick to the shore side on a counter clock wise rotation and that does in fact seem to happen. But you have to also understand that there are newbies out there learning how to control their boats and mishaps are bound to happen. Don't you all remember your first few times out on any boat?

So lets not start slamming anyone and just enjoy the awesome (yet disgusting water quality!) beauty that False Creek provides to all of us on various boats. And I am not suggesting that those damn squatters should be there. In fact I hope they get their boats sink or go down in flames like a few years ago near the Cambie Street bridge. Or even get towed out to junk yards. But that is for another topic I read somewhere else on this site! LOL

[DBWTim]

Apparently a six-man scull T-boned a dragonboat on the Creek again tonight... pretty sure the scull had to be towed and the rowers went for a swim.

Anyone got the details on this latest incident?

[Lethal Weapon]

saw the rowers in the coach boat heading back towing the scull. Didn't see the DB that involved though

[nakano]

Hearing all these incidents on the water kind of make me cringe.  Sure there are lots of newbies (rowers) out there on the water these days we should give them the time and space to practice so they can learn to keep their sculls straight.  As most of us have seen, rowers have their backs toward us when they are going forward.  I am not sure if they rely on the coach boat to tell them to keep left or right.  It is common sense; if they can’t see us there is a higher chance of them hitting a stationary OC or dragon boat.  

I do recall during the theory portion of the steering accreditation the steerspersons have to be aware of all that goes on in the water. How is it that they allow a rowboat to sneak up behind, or come right at them, and not do anything about it?  Do they not see that if they are coming closer, and that they should give the commands “PADDLES UP! TAKE IT AWAY!â€�  What on earth are the steersperson’s doing?  Your job isn’t just to stand there, look pretty and keep the boat straight!  You are responsible for the safety of your crew and the boat!

Even if the coach was talking to the team or reviewing the last piece they did, I don’t feel that it would be rude to give the commands to get the hell away to avoid a collision.  They would understand.

Maybe I come out of this as a little too sensitive of the issue; it is just that I don’t want to eventually hear of a collision where there was a serious injury, or fatality!  I am not intending to place blame or to slam anyone.   We are all out there to enjoy what is offered out there on False Creek.  Safety comes first!

[Colossus]

I do recall during the theory portion of the steering accreditation the steerspersons have to be aware of all that goes on in the water. How is it that they allow a rowboat to sneak up behind, or come right at them, and not do anything about it?  Do they not see that if they are coming closer, and that they should give the commands “PADDLES UP! TAKE IT AWAY!â€�  What on earth are the steersperson’s doing?  Your job isn’t just to stand there, look pretty and keep the boat straight!  You are responsible for the safety of your crew and the boat!

i agree with that.  it really irks me when i see boats stationary, and the steers is sitting down in the back of the boat.  ESPECIALLY when there are other boats in the area.

[StraightLine]

Even if the coach was talking to the team or reviewing the last piece they did, I don’t feel that it would be rude to give the commands to get the hell away to avoid a collision.  They would understand.

At the beginning of each season when we're briefing the new paddlers (and refreshing the memory of the returning paddlers) about common commands, how to load/unload the boat, et cetera, one thing is always made clear to them.  The coach is in charge of the practice and the steersperson is in charge of the boat.  If the steersperson calls a command that overrides the coach, the team follows the direction of the steersperson.

Maybe I come out of this as a little too sensitive of the issue; it is just that I don’t want to eventually hear of a collision where there was a serious injury, or fatality!  I am not intending to place blame or to slam anyone.   We are all out there to enjoy what is offered out there on False Creek.  Safety comes first!

I'm not sure that it is possible to be "too sensitive" on the subject.  Safety is paramount and we all have to share the waterway.  It would be unfortunate if additional restrictions were placed upon the various organizations utilizing False Creek.

It may be that FCRCC, DragonZone, and the DBA need to look at putting a "patrol boat" out during practices to keep an eye on the various dragon boat teams and ensure that everyone is operating in a safe manner.

StraightLine