Dragon Boat West

Was just checking up the team bios and saw that there's alot of canadian teams attending this year...

12 teams on my count:
- Masters
- Concord Pacific
- Deep Cove Red Tied
- Magnum
- Jetstart
- FLCC Mixed
- Fluid Motion
- Sisters In Sync
- Pond Scum
- SIB
- LifeScan
- TD Lightning

There's probably more teams attending that I dont know of.
If I recall correctly, I believe there's a good east team coming, but I cant remember the team name..

It's going to be awesome festival with such a huge canadian representation!

Any talk of teams joining forces for women's, men's, masters races? I'll be down there with Pond Scum and would be very interested in gettting in some extra racing as part of a men's or masters squad.

Martini

I'll be down there and wouldn't mind hopping into a women's boat if one is being organized. What's the age for a master's boat?  I'd be in for that if I'm old enough.

I would so be willing to jump into a Canadian Woman's boat!  Throw together!  anyone already have that going and need another lady or two?

Masters is 40+.

Magnum will be joining forces with Masters for the mens and womens, and I believe they might have enough for their own master's category lol

I've heard talks a while back of Jetstart teaming up with another team but cant remember which team.

Sigh...6 months too young for Masters...still looking for a women's boat though.  I thought I heard Jet Start was teaming up with SI.

There is only one other Canadian team that I can see Deep Cove Catch 22 (women).

Looks like the Canadian teams will have their hands full with the Americans, can we sweep all the golds/silvers/bronzes this year? Predictions anyone?

Jet Start and SI Black

Men's
Women's
Masters

Should be fun!

Hi fellow paddlers,

My team will be going to the SF dragon boat race and we're interested in pairing up with another Canadian team for the gender races. (not sure about the Masters race, but it's open for discussion)
We're a Rec A/B team that practices out of False Creek twice a week, and we've been a fixture on the Vancouver dragon boat scene for a good number of seasons. We're high spirited and fun!

If your team is interested in joining with us for the women's and men's races in SF, please send me a pm and I'll respond.

Paddles up!

It'll be quite a long shot. I'm pretty sure that the American teams took notice of the huge Canadian contingent and bracing themselves for battle. :lol: No specific prediction but the finals are going to be nothing short of wars. :D

now I remember haha

Everyone bring your Cda flags and let's see how much red and white we can show in the paddler's village.  A Canadian domination would be awesome.

I am heading down with some camera stuff and will be onhand to capture some "Golden" moments....
Unless I am racing in them!
looks like Canadian curse will be broken again.... :lol:
Sorry Hans....

Good Afternoon All,

Tide & Paddled is headed to San Fracisco. We're racing mixed division, but if we can pick up 5 women, we'll be able to race i the womens' cup too.

Drop me a line if you're interested in teaming up with us for these heats.

Thanks,
Sandy

I don't know where the Canadian curse originated from but...I believe Canadian teams won 3 of the 5 years the race was held at TI.  2005 was DW and 2009 was LARD but there was a Canadian 3-peat in between.

I think it came from the fact that no Canadian team won until 2006 and the festival has been around since the mid 90's(?), therefore the "Canadian curse" of not winning.

Anyone know if race grid's up yet?

nope not yet.... teams are dropping out and what not ... so they have to re-do grids...

at least that's what i heard

Teams are dropping out? That's too bad... San Fran was awesome when we were there last year and probably the best festival our team has ever been to...

Bummer..I'm sure if teams drop out, its for a substantial reason seeing as how the festival usually sells out 3-4 months in advance.

Predictions anyone?  I am not going but wish I could, looks like there will be some fierce competition.  Let's see who is going:

LARD - can they repeat?
Magnum - can they overcome last year's loss?
Masters of D'Zone - Do they have enough to catch the others?
Jetstart - Will the jet engines be going full tilt this weekend, only B division last year?
Dragon Warriors - Always tough on their home turf, plus they dislike hearing O Canada
BAD - Will they be good this year or just B.A.D.?
Space Dragons - Will they be in hyper space or just spaced out?
Sudden Impact - Always a bridesmaid or the flower girl, will they finally make it to the alter?

????Also rans????
Killer Guppies - lurking around but they are just guppies and not sharks
Dieselfish - Same as the Guppies but slimmy because of the diesel, is San Fran harbour that polluted with diesel?
Lightwave - had a good run at Alcan, have they improved?
Pond Scum - How will they react to not being in a pond when they paddle, big waves and all.
Wasabi - in my high school days they rivalled FCRCC, now hardly hear of them. Will they come out with a roar or a whimper?

Wish the grid would come out so I could see what I will be missing.

With a name like LARD, you can't come up with something more witty? ;)  As always, we will be paddling our hardest. Placing will depend on how hard everyone else paddles.

I think Killer Guppies will have a very good showing, they looked good at Long Beach.

DH Magnum is clearly the favorite team to win based on how they performed this season so far...

Well I was giving some "respect" to the 2009 champions thus nothing too funny, but if you insist:

LARD - Did they get fat and sassy eating all that fried food and baked goods since last year, made from lard of course
Masters of D'Zone - will they master their domain (race) or just be master debators this weekend?
Magnum - will they be drinking a magnum of champagne or crying a magnum of tears?
Lightwave - will they see the light or get sucked into a black hole where no light will ever be seen again?
Wasabi - will they be hot like wasabi or cold like sushi?

There'll be some FCRCC paddlers sprinkled around as well :)

Race grid out.  So much for respect...  ;)

In all honesty, the seeding is pretty fair. LARD didn't do as well in Alcan this year compared to the last couple of years. Same goes for Long Beach. We didn't do anything to earn any respect. Hopefully we can go out and bust some brackets this weekend.

^ I like how 'bust some brackets' sounds lol
Good luck to LARD and all the teams racing this weekend! 
Forecast is SUNNY with 0% POP, bust out the sunscreen! :D

They had a huge thing of free sunscreen last year! Make sure to load up! Hehehe...

that was nice, but they were so thick...sticky gobs of suncreen haha

hey everyone! I left my wallet on one of the shuttles from Marriott to Treasure Island today, it's in the 3rd row from the back in the webbing....it's a black leather Oakley with a girl's id and our keycard to the Marriott in it, if anyone finds it could you please return it to the Marriott front desk or any Dragon Hearts Magnum paddler

thank you!

That's a bummer about your wallet.  I think if the bus took only dragon boaters you would have a high hance at getting it returned.  Unfortunately it also takes people in the city for free too.  Have you tried calling the shuttle services orgainizer?  One year I left my camera and got it back the next morning after getting in touch with him.

No results from San Fran yet, but I did find this:

LARD Black-4th place Comp A Final, Red 3rd Cons B Final, White 4th Rec B Championship
From http://twitter.com/teamlard
 
I'm waiting on hearing back from magnum, with fingers crossed...

Races are done.  Magnum took 1st overall, and placed 1st in Womens / Open with the Masters of D'Zone.  Jetstart finished 2nd in the mixed.  Here's what I remember, but will post more later.

Comp A
1. 2:05.06 Magnum
2. 2:09.06 Jetstart
3. 2:09.59 Dragon Warriors 1
4. 2:10.49 LARD Black
5. 2:12.82 Masters of D'Zone
6. 2:13.30 BAD

Open
1. Magnum / Masters of D'Zone
2. LARD
3. Dragon Warriors

Womens
1. Magnum / Masters of D'Zone
2. Jet Start / Sudden Impact
3. Bridge City

Visiting Team
1. Magnum
2. Jetstart
3. LARD Black

Masters
1. Jetstart / Sudden Impact
2. Pond Scum / Fluid Motion
3. Masters of D'Zone

Edit: Posted some final results.

Way to represent, all Canadian teams   :D

It was a HUGE Canadian domination.  The curse is alive and kicking and the standard set for next year.  Venue was awesome, weather was fabulous, transportation shuttles, loved them.  Some suggestions to San Fran organizer's for next year:

1)  Need tentage in marshalling area.  Standing in the shade of the dumpster was smelly.
2)  More race announcements in paddler's village.  We almost missed our semi final because you got 45min ahead of schedule when you announced at the team captain's meeting you would stick to 15 min if you got ahead.  and we arrived 10 min before the scheduled marshalling of the race. However, being ahead is always nice.
3)  Starter:  Hire Kim!!!  (enough said)

Otherwise, a very good regatta.

Congrats Canadian teams!  way to represent,
always nice to see our competitors join up to dominate  :D
need photos  :D

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early morning sat AM

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Masters of D'zone. in lane 1. their first race.

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same race. Masters win it.

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masters divison semi finals. lane 1--masters of d'zone. lane 2--BAD

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masters division semi finals. lane 6--diesel fish, lightwave, lifescan

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comp A finals.  lane 1--
Dragon Hearts Magnum, lane 2--jet start, lane 3--LARD, lane 4--Masters of D'zone

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magnum wins comp A finals. congrats


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why you should never fall asleep at the race site.

Results have been posted.  Congratulations to all teams on a fantastic weekend of racing!

http://www.cdba.org/documents/race_results/2010/2010_ti_final_results_complete.pdf (http://www.cdba.org/documents/race_results/2010/2010_ti_final_results_complete.pdf)

Hi All,

On behalf of the California Dragon Boat Association (CDBA) I just wanted to thank all of the visiting crews that came down to enjoy some excellent racing this past weekend.  Our festival is a race run by paddlers for paddlers and your support means a lot to us. 

As already noted, the results, in cleaned up format have been posted at:

http://www.cdba.org/documents/race_results/2010/2010_ti_final_results_complete.pdf

Congrats to Dragon Hearts Magnum for avenging last year with authority and congrats to all of the teams. The top 15 mixed rec/comp teams by finish for this year are:

Dragon Hearts Magnum
Jetstart
Dragon Warriors 1
LARD Black
Masters of D'Zone
Alliance of Smiles BAD Dragons
Killer Guppies Gold
Cal Dragonboat
Sudden Impact Black
Suen Feng Loong (SFL)
Pond Scum
Team LifeScan
Dragon Warriors 2
Dragon Warriors 3
Ripple Fast

We hope to see you all on the water next year.   

Best,

Hans
www.sfdragonboat.com

Just a quick note to everyone from Canada...anyone who wants to race in SF next year, you may want to register your team ASAP. Spread the word, San Francisco is the best race in the US. Great Racing, Great City, Great Venue and above all - CDBA and all the SF teams ROCK!

We sure raced some tough teams down there (LARD, Dragon Warriors, BAD, Absolute, Ripple, Cal Dragonboat, Wasabi, Bridge City (Portland), Space Dragons, Killer Guppies, DPW, SFL and Dragon Max). Portland, LA, Texas and SF represented very well.

BTW, there is a rumour circulating around that a team from CHINA might be coming to try to take away our domination. If they do show, we will have to bring our top guns down.

Once again, thank you to all the Canadians for making me feel like we were at home again. It was great to see Pond Scum (Regina), Deep Cove (Perfect Catch, In Snyc, Catch 22), TD Lighting, Fluid Motion, Jet Start (Toronto), Dragon Hearts Magnum, Masters of D'zone, Sudden Impact Black (Fraser Valley), Fort Langley, Sister in Sync, and lifescan

Hope to you see you all again next year....

Kerry,

Our thanks to you as always for keeping our dock moving, fun and safe.  Certainly, I think the Canadian teams had much metal to bring home in there luggage and hopefully some fun memories and good times as well!

See you next year !

Hans

Back home and exhausted.  Weather was beautiful ... 25-30 degrees sunshine over the weekend. 

This is a very well run race.  It's the 4th time that I've been to SF, and it has always been fun. 

My comments:
- The competition is good across all divisions (Mixed and Junior). California teams LARD, Dragon Warriors and BAD put up good competition in the A final.
- The hosting teams are great.  They really take care of visiting teams.
- Dockmaster Kerry kept things going on time.
- Convenient shuttle bus service to and from race site.
- Closing ceremonies - Good gesture to have top 3 in consolation invited to the stage for photos
- Cheers to Dragon Warriors and CDBA for organizing.  This definitely is a race run by paddlers for paddlers. 
 :Cheers:

These are a few of the photos I took over the weekend.  They are mostly from the closing ceremonies.  Hopefully, others will have additional photos to share.

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Women's qualifier - Jetstart / Sudden Impact in the lead

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View of the race course from the stands

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Masters Final - Jetstart / Sudden Impact in Lane 1 and Masters of D'Zone in Lane 2

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Masters Division - 3rd Place - Masters of D'Zone

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Masters Division - 2nd Place - Pond Scum / Fluid Motion

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Masters Division - 1st Place - Jetstart / Sudden Impact

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Womens Division - 1st Place - Magnum / Masters of D'Zone

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Open Division - 2nd Place - LARD

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Open Division - 1st Place - Magnum / Masters of D'Zone

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Mixed Division A Final - 3rd Place - Dragon Warriors 1

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Mixed Division A Final - 2nd Place - Jetstart

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Mixed Division A Final - 1st Place - Magnum

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Visitor's Cup Final

Love the photos!  LOVE all those Canadian flags!  Go Canada! :D

Does anyone have video of the Men's & Women's Final races? 

Great Warm weekend of racing!
Lots of close races and once again the Canadian curse rears it's delicate head... :lol:
I didn't hear O'Canada as many times as I would like but the only one was touching and brought a tear to my eye.....sniff
Managed a few shots but didn't bring any heavy weapons so enjoy!

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Game face for the ladies before the big race
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Women's final Margion of Victory...Sweet!
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Grand dads and Kids getting ready to rumble
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with 50 meters to go, DW looked like the winners.....
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but 50 meters is a long way to go....
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The Kids celebrate
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woohoo, My fans (and Elias's elbow... :?)

Great photos skygal, superduper, mike and lethal weapon. Do you folks mind sharing them on the SFDragonboat photo gallery for our visitors to see? If so, below are the instructions to upload your photos to our server.
 
Once you've uploaded your photos please notify me at [email protected] so I may upload them to the Gallery. Once photos are uploaded I will create an album giving credit to you. This invitation goes out to anyone else who would like to share their festival photos as well.

Thanks in advance,
Henry
~ CDBA Webmaster ~

- Download a FTP client and install. (Filezilla FTP client is free and virus/malware free)
http://filezilla-project.org/download.php?type=client

- In Filezilla site manger create a new site with the following parameters

host: ftp.cdba.org
servertype: FTP- File Transfer Protocol
Logontype: Normal
User: [email protected]
Password: uploadbin

- Connect
- Right Click and create a directory using your name. eg. "henry_young"
- Drag and drop files into the directory you've created.

Sorry about the funky experience. The site plan and tents are finalized weeks in advance and the extremely warm weather we had this past weekend was very rare for TI and because we operate on a shoestring budget we only order what we feel is needed.

However standing next to a dumpster is horrible so I'll definitely forward your comments along to the festival director about having a marshalling area tent.

The other two questions are race related so drop our race director, Hans Wu, a note.

Thank you,
Henry

We're striving in becoming one of the top festivals in Northern Cal. Help us get the positive word out about the festival, dragon boating and the CDBA by voicing your experience on Yelp.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/san-francisco-international-dragon-boat-festival-san-francisco

Again thank you the festival wouldn't be the same without your support.

Henry
~CDBA Webmaster~

If you paddle in False Creek, standing next to a dumpster is an improvement.... :lol:

I found it interesting that they had tents for the people lining for the freebies at the Hong Trade tent, but the marshalling paddlers were left to cook in the sun or ferment by the dumpster  :) Nonetheless, it was a great festival and at least the races were on time or early so we didn't have to wait that long. 

On another note, I read that this would be the last year at TI, is this true? Where is the new location?

BTW...I know my last statement (speculative I hope) about this year being the last year at TI may cause some consternation since everyone (including me) seems to love the TI site. This information was gleened from a couple of the reviews from the Yelp site below.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/san-francisco-international-dragon-boat-festival-san-francisco

with 50 meters left... it was LARD who was in the lead ...

^ lol mike, you'll have to forgive him, he's getting older haha

Congrats to all teams that came out!
Thanks to Hans, DW, CDBA organizers, and volunteers who made this event happen go so smoothly!
Special thanks to LARD for giving us the motivation to be better!

Dragon Warriors did a great job hosting out of town teams as always. Congrats on getting bronze bling in the Comp A final! You guys surprised me and stepped it up big time!  :D

speaking about dumpsters, I remember last year for the men's race, we hid behind the same exact dumpster, the diff being that it was smellier lol

All in all, this year's festival is one of the most memorable festival I've ever attended so far, here's to hoping it stays in TI! (imho, TI plays an important factor in the success of the festival due to its unique location/ambiance)

I too would like to thank our host team and sponsor of the festival, Kaiser Permanente. Roast frickin' pig for lunch. Need I say more? Amazing food, touching welcome signage, comforting big hugs from familiar faces seen but twice a year, fully loaded tent set up with cubbie holes for our storing pleasure. They think of everything to make us feel welcome. If you're reading this Kaiser, THANK YOU from Team LifeScan. It is because of your hospitality that we have enjoyed this festival so much for the past 3 years. We know it's not easy feeding the gluttons on our team. Great job! Hope to see you at the 2011 Rio Tinto Festival so we can repay the favor:)  

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Roast pig for the Team LifeScan Pigs

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Being good guests and presenting Kaiser with a host gift

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Saying goodbye to our hosts and the 2010 San Francisco Dragon Boat Festival. See you next year!
 

Looks like everyone had a great time again. My team and I went in 2008 and enjoyed every minute of it. The team had scheduled to go down this year as our last festival of the year. Unfortunately, we could only get the minimum amount of paddlers to commit, then as the deadline approached a few who had to back out because of health issues. Of course, one teammate and I had already bought our airline tickets. Our back-up plan was to paddle with a local team as our coach had a few connections, BAD was gracious enough to welcome us to paddle with them. Thank you to Alvin Wang.

One month before the festival, I received my kidney transplant. Unfortunately, my only disappointment was I couldn't travel for 6 months and couldn't go to SF to attend the festival and see that beautiful city again. Well at least next time I don't have to worry about finding a place to dialyse for 4 hours, worry about what foods I can and cannot eat and how much fluid I should drink. These are just some of the difficulties living with kidney disease. I wouldn't want this on anyone. Luckily, I didn't have to wait the 8-10 or more for a kidney donor. Please register yourself for organ donation and save another's live after yours.

Thanks for sharing your story, sucks that you missed SF but on the super upside, you got the much needed kidney!

Hope your recovery is speedy!

It's all speculation. There's a ton of environmental red tape to go through not to mention the slow economy. We haven't heard anything as of yet but will keep teams posted.

Henry

Here are some videos I have from the weekend =]. There are times when the videos are focused on Magnum, but you generally see the whole race.

Competitive A Championship
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_GrB71J2dU

Visitor's Cup (300m)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rvxfxnZqzs

Men's Championship
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFvZgN4U7q8

Women's Championship
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO-mPknJd_M

Thanks for posting the vid!

Note to anyone who's in charge of video recording a race/ if its your camera and you need to get somebody to record for you, tell them:
1) Record from the finish line.
2) Prop the camera hand with your other hand or ur friend's back or ur knees if you're sitting down so the camera dont shake too much
3) Dont shake
4) Record from the finish line!

 :D

I have better advice.  Procure a helicopter and wide lens camera.  Mount camera on helicopter.  Follow races from overhead.  :lol:

lol, if we're going to venture on ideas that requires somewhat of a budget..here's something totally feasible for SF festival or any other major festivals.

Part 1: put a guy with a videocam(HD or not) with a wireless unit on a chase boat going beside the boats during races..since this already happens with photographers on the boat, it shouldnt be too hard, at a minimum, just record the the finals(rec, comp, mens, womens, masters, highschool, etc)

Part 2: Harrison does this quite well, put a trailer sized screen near the spectators so they can really see.

Implementing this might be against better financial judgement as it could cost up to 1-3k but it's a HUGE step towards making dragon boating a spectator sport.
The more popular it becomes in terms of being a spectator sport, the more visitors and paddlers that attend the festival which equates to more profit which will inevitably cover the overhead cost of the camera/screen itself.

Harrison also uses a 60ft, boom truck which swings right out over the water ,,

That's true. Funny when you consider that even Harrison was able to get this thing going for several years in a row, but maybe because there's more financial room for them compared to the bigger event in San Fran when they have to manage a lot more things like paddler shuttles, hotels, venue set up, that this is more of an oversight. It'll be interesting to see if they'll do it.

move the camera man from that boom truck to the boat and it'll be a guaranteed hit.  msn(u)