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Title: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: DBWTim on June 11, 2010, 09:33:24 AM
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August 2, 2011
West96
Central50
East270
Full Report (http://www.vch.ca/media/beachwaterquality_Aug2_2011.pdf)

Quote from: Vancouver Coastal Health
Vancouver-area receiving waters are sampled throughout the swimming season to determine compliance with the Canadian Recreational Water Guidelines. These guidelines establish a level of 200 coliform bacteria (an indicator organism associated with sewage contamination) per 100 mls of water for "primary contact" recreational activities.   This level is expressed as a geometric mean over the most recent 30 days.
When water in the vicinity of bathing beaches exceeds the 200 coliforms/100 ml level the Medical Health Officer will post Warning signs indicating that "This Water Does Not Meet Health Standards for Swimming or Wading." The risk of acquiring an infection is increased above this level of contamination.
The "coliform counts" for the Vancouver-area beaches are updated weekly, based on sampling results provided by the GVRD Water Quality Laboratory.


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: DBWTim on June 11, 2010, 09:35:55 AM
After the recent discussions on the water quality of False Creek, I thought it would be helpful for those paddling in False Creek to have some quick access to the information Vancouver Coastal Health Water reports as well as a graphical representation of how it's been trending for the year.


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: Special K on June 11, 2010, 11:26:58 AM
Interesting, its gone up over 20+ since I posted the info last week. Wonder why the sudden increase.


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: paddlecwazy on June 11, 2010, 01:14:40 PM
We've had a few pretty intense rain storms in the lower mainland over the past few weeks.

It's likely they were strong enough to generate some stormwater overflow from the system to flow into the creek.


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: NFW on June 11, 2010, 08:00:29 PM
Interesting, its gone up over 20+ since I posted the info last week. Wonder why the sudden increase.

Perhaps the troller wanted to prove a point and decided to contribute his/her own fecal matter lol


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: Illuminate on June 11, 2010, 08:33:59 PM
Interesting, its gone up over 20+ since I posted the info last week. Wonder why the sudden increase.


Perhaps the troller wanted to prove a point and decided to contribute his/her own fecal matter lol


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Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: goldcap on June 14, 2010, 12:59:18 PM
Very much appreciate the update! On behalf of the paddlers with health issues, it's very important to know. We
often just don't go past Cambie Street when the counts go high, just as a precaution.
But it sure doesn't stop us from paddling!!
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Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: glowing_ice on June 14, 2010, 03:12:22 PM
don't forget that the water does not circulate very well at the science world end of the creek.  with that said the water quality is not bad enough for concern.  go back the same time a few years ago and the water would be brownish red and squatter boats polluting the water (with occasional needles here and there).

time to paddle out in english bay! :)


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: DBWTim on June 17, 2010, 12:15:18 PM
Latest report (http://www.vch.ca/media/beachwaterquality_061710.pdf) is up. Looks like on average, False Creek's coliform counts have gone up 38.71% from the previous week.


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: Luke on June 18, 2010, 12:35:06 AM
don't forget that the water does not circulate very well at the science world end of the creek.  with that said the water quality is not bad enough for concern.  go back the same time a few years ago and the water would be brownish red and squatter boats polluting the water (with occasional needles here and there).

time to paddle out in englissh bay! :)



yeah, back then if teams weren't careful they would be chow for the tylosaurus


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: mandachan on June 26, 2010, 11:01:45 PM
I was working at the DZ docks on Tuesday, and I was just about ready to finish my shift. It was about 9pm, and my friend and I had just commented on how brown the creek was because the tide was so low. It was especially foamy with a dark sludgy substance and smelled worse than it looked. A thick veil of gasoline and sewage covered the creek... it looked as though you could walk across the surface.

Then, to our horror (and amusement), we heard a girl from an incoming dragonboat screaming... followed my several of her teammates yelling "nooooooo"

I looked over toward the Aquabus stop and saw 2 young men in their 20's wearing nothing but beach shorts, taking a running leap into the water. They entered the water cleanly with nothing more than a little "slurp" and came out feeling "refreshed" as told by their elongated "ahhhhh". They then proceeded to go to the top of the ramp and dive from the white fence (10m from the water at the time). They did this several times until I recollected myself and asked them where they were from.

They informed me that they are indeed from Vancouver, and that they do know the water is "dirty"... without knowing the extent of it. They jokingly told me that they know they will contract a disease soon. I told them they have no idea.

They hadn't known about the sewage outflow, nor the current levels of colliform floating around. I equipped them with my newly acquired knowledge from my beloved DBW website and they turned to each other with a  :shock: then walked back up the ramp, put their shirts on, and biked away. Their female companion was laughing hysterically.

Thanks, DBWTim!!!


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: NFW on June 26, 2010, 11:29:12 PM
Too late. Their third nipple must be visible right abt now.


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: Swordfish on June 27, 2010, 01:59:09 AM
Too late. Their third nipple must be visible right abt now.

mmm....third nipple means more selection!


Title: COLIFORM WARNING - False Creek Water Quality Report - July 6, 2010
Post by: DBWTim on July 08, 2010, 05:09:37 PM

Latest update to the False Creek Water Quality Report (http://www.vch.ca/media/beachwaterquality_070610.pdf). Please be aware that False Creek East has exceeded safe levels of coliform this week.


Title: Re: COLIFORM WARNING - False Creek Water Quality Report - July 6, 2010
Post by: mandachan on July 09, 2010, 09:23:00 PM
Whoa, 220. Time to go to Wreck!


Just out of curiosity...is Alder Bay considered West or Central False Creek?


Title: Re: COLIFORM WARNING - False Creek Water Quality Report - July 6, 2010
Post by: NFW on July 10, 2010, 12:53:11 PM
It happens every year, so after a while, it gets to be like meh...whatever..

Whoa, 220. Time to go to Wreck!


Just out of curiosity...is Alder Bay considered West or Central False Creek?

West, but since its sort of sheltered, the count is most likely similar to central or east FC.



Title: Re: COLIFORM WARNING - False Creek Water Quality Report - July 6, 2010
Post by: mandachan on July 10, 2010, 02:18:03 PM
Spit, don't swallow!


Title: Re: COLIFORM WARNING - False Creek Water Quality Report - July 6, 2010
Post by: NFW on July 10, 2010, 02:33:31 PM
only in this scenario! ;)


Title: Re: COLIFORM WARNING - False Creek Water Quality Report - July 6, 2010
Post by: pammywc on July 11, 2010, 03:35:12 PM
thanks for keeping us informed Tim!  way to go DBW...
& congrats SPAIN!   :Cheers:


Title: False Creek Water Quality Report - July 16, 2010
Post by: DBWTim on July 15, 2010, 04:11:36 PM
Latest update to the False Creek Water Quality Report (http://www.vch.ca/media/beachwaterquality_July15,2010.pdf). Looks like the water in False Creek East is back under the 200 coliforms/100 ml level. Guess we can enjoy paddling in the water without the risk of acquiring an infection for this week...


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: Keen Man on July 26, 2010, 03:35:13 PM
False Creek is 'definitely swimmable now,' says health official
Saturday, July 24, 2010  By Ethan Baron, The Province

http://www.theprovince.com/mobile/iphone/news/vancouver/False+Creek+definitely+swimmable+says+health+official/3316466/story.html (http://www.theprovince.com/mobile/iphone/news/vancouver/False+Creek+definitely+swimmable+says+health+official/3316466/story.html)

Even on the hottest summer day, most locals would be loath to dip a toe into Vancouver’s False Creek for fear of picking up a dreadful infection. But contrary to widespread public opinion, it’s safe to swim in the inlet, a health official says.

“It’s definitely swimmable now,” says Brian Johnston, environmental-health supervisor at the Vancouver Coastal health authority.

Once or twice a week, the health authority samples seawater around Vancouver to count fecal coliforms — bacteria from sewage and animal and human excrement. Ingesting water with high fecal-coliform counts can cause serious gastrointestinal illness. Skin, eye and ear infections can result from contact with highly contaminated seawater.

“The numbers we are getting for False Creek are what we call ‘beach quality,’” Johnston says.

False Creek bears a stigma associated with historical industrial use and sewage contamination that in the summer of 2008 saw dragon boaters and kayakers warned to shower as soon as possible after paddling there, following 2004 and 2005 advisories to avoid ingesting splashed water.

In June 2005, samples revealed a fecal-coliform count in False Creek of 520, more than twice the level of 200 that’s considered safe for swimming. In 2008, a sewage overflow pushed the number to 2,900 at the east end of False Creek, almost three times the 1,000 level considered safe for boating. AIDS victims and others with weakened immune systems were said to be most at risk from water-related infections.

Although the fecal-coliform problem has been largely solved through improvements in sewage-management and education of boaters, False Creek’s reputation remains tarnished, Johnston says.

“It’s an urban myth,” he says. “Our numbers are getting darn good.”

July 15 sampling produced counts of 69, 102 and 184 in west, central and east False Creek, respectively. The higher reading in the east likely resulted from a short-term outflow from a sewage pipe or a boater emptying a wastewater tank, Johnston says.

While live-aboard boaters in False Creek have in the past been vilified as a probable source of fecal contamination in False Creek, Johnston believes they don’t contribute greatly to the problem. Most boats have just one or two people aboard, and many don’t defecate in their onboard toilets, he says.

Heavy rainfall after prolonged dry periods can lead to sewage flows into seawater around Vancouver, Johnston says.

This month’s testing shows all Vancouver beaches are safe for swimming, he says. The highest beach reading — in East Vancouver’s Trout Lake, where bacteria from waterbirds, dogs and people accumulate in an unrefreshed body of water — was well below the unsafe-for-swimming threshold, at 156.

So if you find yourself up False Creek with or without a paddle, or at any of the city’s beaches, fear not the fecal coliform.

But if Johnston is to be believed, you may want to swim away from anyone making suspicious facial expressions: “It’s human nature, you get in the water, you usually go to the bathroom sometimes.”



Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: rtsdhvy on July 27, 2010, 06:39:26 AM
So how come Brian Johnstone, the health official mentioned in this article, didn't go for a swim in "The Creek" just to prove his point and put his money where his mouth is, so to speak? Actions speak louder than words.
Personally, I won't be taking the plunge unless I huli.


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: Rob on July 28, 2010, 05:58:05 AM
After going for a swim in Victoria Harbor in Hong Kong, False Creek doesn't seem so bad.   :sick:

I learned that when you add the fatties from False Creek  to a light Magnum team, staying above the water is a challenge for the men's races in choppy water.


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: Illuminate on July 28, 2010, 09:36:40 AM
After going for a swim in Victoria Harbor in Hong Kong, False Creek doesn't seem so bad.   :sick:

I learned that when you add the fatties from False Creek  to a light Magnum team, staying above the water is a challenge for the men's races in choppy water.

Maybe you should take a gulp of False Creek water and tell us which one tastes better  :lol:


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: mandachan on July 29, 2010, 12:11:24 AM
Hong Kong water makes False Creek water seem potable...


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: rkranas on June 24, 2011, 07:42:30 PM
let's just clean false creek....


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: CCR-MGR on June 25, 2011, 01:25:01 AM
here's the latest report.  


http://www.vch.ca/your_environment/water_quality/recreational_water/beach_water_quality_report/ (http://www.vch.ca/your_environment/water_quality/recreational_water/beach_water_quality_report/)[/url]


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Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: CCR-MGR on August 25, 2011, 10:14:35 PM
False Creek Water Quality Report as of Aug 19th

West 98   Central 100   East 560

560 thats 2 and a half times safe for swimming levels.


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: Backward Rowing on August 26, 2011, 10:00:00 AM
Is that why I have that nasty rash?  :shock:


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: RenalPaddler on August 26, 2011, 02:57:22 PM
As of Aug.23 sampling,

False Creek
West - 160
Central - 170
East - 550

www.vch.ca/media/beachwaterquality_Aug23_2011.pdf (http://www.vch.ca/media/beachwaterquality_Aug23_2011.pdf)

Wow, for once Trout Lake is better than East False Creek.


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: Illuminate on August 26, 2011, 03:07:28 PM
July 26, just before Celebration of Lights 2011:

West  96
Central  54
East  223


Aug 9th, after influx of squatter boats for the CoL

False Creek* West  79
Central  76
East  510


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: CCR-MGR on August 26, 2011, 03:40:11 PM
Should be a law and they should enforce it.........Gross!!!!

July 26, just before Celebration of Lights 2011:

West  96
Central  54
East  223


Aug 9th, after influx of squatter boats for the CoL

False Creek* West  79
Central  76
East  510


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: mandachan on August 27, 2011, 10:14:55 PM
Oh good grief. I fell in 3 times since Aug 23rd. The last one I had a pretty big gulp of water too.  :x


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: CCR-MGR on September 02, 2011, 01:29:58 PM
Aug 30th

False Creek*


West     154
Central   231
East      644   And Climbing


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: LittleSchrodinger on September 02, 2011, 03:16:59 PM
I take it the floating foot didn't help lowering the count.  :lol: But holy feces...


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: RenalPaddler on September 03, 2011, 07:59:07 AM
eeeew!!!

I've noticed a few more SQUATTER boats in the past week.

Hopefully, they're here only for the Labour Day weekend.


Title: Re: False Creek Water Quality Report
Post by: mappingguy on September 03, 2011, 01:56:14 PM
I was out on the creek this morning by DZ.  The water was the cleanest I've seen it in months.  Saw a school of baby fish by the dock.