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Title: Stealing from D'Boaters
Post by: IronGiant on November 20, 2009, 10:21:00 PM
Wondering if I could call on anyone so inclined for a favour to tweet/retweet a message to help drive some mild, fun online action.

Seems an enterprising young intra-preneur from Australia, Tyrone Shum, thought it was ok to steal our team's logo (made by hand, by me) and make it the cover of his (meh!) dragon boat manual. While free, it's tied to his other many online vultures ventures. He promised removal months ago.

I am IronGiant67 on Twitter ... my tweet on Nov 20 was (133 characters):
@tyroneshum STILL has my design on his book. Payment and royalties in mail? Compare here http://bit.ly/A7HSi (http://bit.ly/A7HSi) and http://bit.ly/RA4NS (http://bit.ly/RA4NS)

Tweetable cut n' paste version:  @tyroneshum has stolen dragon boat design on his book. Compare here http://bit.ly/A7HSi (http://bit.ly/A7HSi) and http://bit.ly/RA4NS (http://bit.ly/RA4NS)

I'm all for sharing best practices and helping one another learn and grow, but not for ultimate financial gain or spam list building. Stealing is one thing. Stealing from paddlers another. Stealing a paddler's source of festival beer is death penalty.

Cheers - Thanks for playing along - Laurie


Title: Re: Stealing from D'Boaters
Post by: Swordfish on November 21, 2009, 12:35:16 AM
Hmm, time for some pro bono work ;)


Title: Re: Stealing from D'Boaters
Post by: NFW on November 21, 2009, 03:41:34 AM
I'd help but I dont have twitter and will not get one anytime soon.



Title: Re: Stealing from D'Boaters
Post by: LARDCore on November 21, 2009, 09:09:48 PM
you should add "#dragonboat" to your tweet


Title: Re: Stealing from D'Boaters
Post by: mandachan on November 21, 2009, 09:50:29 PM
I subscribed my spammail account just to see what he has to say.

http://www.dragonglobe.com/quickstart/Dragonboat_Quickstart.pdf

Swordfish, any thoughts?


Title: Re: Stealing from D'Boaters
Post by: Swordfish on November 23, 2009, 09:05:52 AM
I think the guy's an asshat ;)

That's at least 3 places where IronGiant's logo is used.


Title: Re: Stealing from D'Boaters
Post by: madcap on November 23, 2009, 05:06:43 PM
I think the expression is "icehole"... :)


Title: Re: Stealing from D'Boaters
Post by: doc on November 25, 2009, 08:46:07 PM
Looks like he changed the "book" cover.


Title: Re: Stealing from D'Boaters
Post by: BernMan on November 26, 2009, 07:44:44 AM
If you've downloaded the PDF document you will still see the logo on page 6, the last page. Click on Manda's link. So it is not yet all removed. But has anyone communicated with Tyrone?


Title: Re: Stealing from D'Boaters
Post by: StrokeItHard on November 26, 2009, 05:28:27 PM
If you've downloaded the PDF document you will still see the logo on page 6, the last page. Click on Manda's link. So it is not yet all removed. But has anyone communicated with Tyrone?

Well, when she downloaded the PDF document, the cover of the book on the site was still using the Ritchie Bros' logo. The cover has recently been changed on the site so I'd assume he'd do so with the "new" PDF.


Title: Re: Stealing from D'Boaters
Post by: IronGiant on November 28, 2009, 11:19:20 AM
I emailed him directly with some stong language (thanks, Swordfish) and he replied saying he's on it. Will monitor his progress and follow though if there's no action. It's not life or death, just the principle. I'm not a fan of users-and-abusers.

Thanks to all for the advice ... and twit-orials (missed the #, thanks).


Title: Re: Stealing from D'Boaters
Post by: islanddragon on December 31, 2009, 06:15:28 PM
Sometimes imitation is a form of flattery...
Did you Copyright your work? As far as I know, if you didn't do that, it's up for grabs. My son used to do designs for a T-shirt company and every one had to go through the Copyright process.


Title: Re: Stealing from D'Boaters
Post by: Swordfish on January 01, 2010, 03:00:46 AM
There's no need to register copyrights for protection, see here (http://www.cipo.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/cipointernet-internetopic.nsf/eng/wr00506.html#no8).  Basically any creative work is automatically granted protection from infringement.  There's some benefits for registration (principally as evidence if there's a dispute over ownership) but it's not a prerequisite for copyright protection.