Dragon Boat West

It was suggested Tuesday night at Practice that since Magnum and Pac Reach practice on Thursday's - SI Black, Master's of the D'zone, and FCRCC Team Canada do the finals race.

I know that Kamini said that FCRCC Team Canada would be interested.  SI Black would be interested - although I would appreciate it if it happened after August 8 - many of us will be paddling the WPFG

What do you say?
 :twisted:

that would be extremely interesting, we had been talking at dinner about having that race. glad we're all of the same opinion. I believe you can count Magnum in.

There are 3 BUK at FCRCC and a few BUKs at dragonzone, i dont know if they'll lend them to us as we all practice out of fcrcc. But definitely, we have to have that race off.

 I don't believe Pac Reach trains every week in dragonboat and the team was comprised of some that were former paddlers .Trying to get everyone together may be an issue as some of these people train other disciplines that nite w/ their own teams

 Things you may have to consider are ,who is going to set the course and time it ? What if there was a photo finish between some ? ....Would you re-race again because you could not determine the final outcome..... Would you allow for some teams to bring in other paddlers because they can't fill their crew w/ who they had ? There may be a few problems trying to do the re-race ... What if you did allow a crew say to switch a few paddlers and then you lost . :shock:

 Just something to think about but I'm all for it ,its good practice for all

This is like Mortal Combat [theme song plays in background]

anyway, I'll gladly help out somehow if theres a race and I'm in town. I really want to see this  :)

Hmmm...what to do??? I paddled with Pac Reach in Harrison (and Whistler) but I'm going with the Master's of D'Zone to Kelowna and last year I was on FCRCC. Which crew should I race with???  :wink:

All kidding aside I think Paddleboy has a point (please note this is a one off!) regarding having the same crews, proper alignment on the start and the finish line. Plus I'm tired after work and don't have the same energy as I do on race day  :shock:, comes with age.

Yeah we'll definitely need some kind of regulating going on as an accurate way to measure the finish because the race will definitely be tight. Just looking at this final, it's pretty much the same as Whistler's final and the difference between 2nd -> 5th was only .64 of a second... so it's definately something not to be left to the eye to judge.

Yes, that's definitely going to be an interesting arrangement. Considering that this year every battle between Master, Magnum, Pac Reach, and SIB had been fought with tooth and nail, every single time, there will be photo finishes. That, and getting the original crew together can tricky as some of the people on the teams are starting to head out for vacations/whatever and Harrison was their last, show how much leeway are we going to allow on that? That, and are we basically going to do one race or given ample times to headbutt against each other like mountain goats until the sun's down? :lol:

Of course in a perfect world, we can have WE to set up the course solely for us, but aren't they running WPFB as well? Only if we can have the race off on the last dragonboating day, so they won't have to take down the course but that's a *lot* to ask for.

I've got the solution! Taiwanese FLAGS! ROFL

Best out of 3? rock, paper, scissors for ties? LOL

All kidding aside, as much as i would love for this to happen, It probably wont.

The reality of it is, it will cost a substantial amount of money to set something like that up, and for something that is less than a day's event and only 5 teams?

All the issues has been pointed out:
1) Race lanes/buoys
2) Timing/starts
3) Video record of finish line
4) Chase boats, etc
5) Buk allotment
6) Volunteers
7) Have to have same paddler roster as Harrison or not?
8) Working w/ diff paddler schedules, etc
9) Misc

The only feasible way (logistically) i can see how this might work if its tacked on to another event, such as WPFG/Last Gasp..but that's whole can of political worms in itself. Add that to issues abt paddle roster, or maybe they are paddling on those events and are tired, and unable to compete at a 100% for the race-off, etc.

There are just too many variables...but if we overcome that and its on, I'll be there.
I nominate the name of the race-off 'Creek Death Match '09!' :rofl: It'll be EPIC! HAHA!

My 2 cents worth. :wink:

Yeah, it needs to be attached to another event, but since most of us will likely be dead tired from Worlds/Nationals/wanting to rest instead of doing Last Gasp (We Magnums will be hitting Kelowna and San Fran in back to back weekends), it's going to take one hell of a dragon wrangling to get this going. Sucking up to WE to let us race after WPFG, anyone?

Definitely feeling the LUV reading thru this and the end of the Harrison thread.  All of the teams mentioned would love nothing better than to duke it out to determine, once and for all, who is the top dawg. ( okay, who is the 2nd dawg to FCRCC)  Thing is, with db and other sports it's who is top dawg on that day.  Nothing is ever definitive.  It's that very thing that makes racing so much fun.  You never know from year to year or race to race what some team has in their bag of tricks that makes them better on race day or on that race day.  I love that uncertanity, especially with those teams that have close times, regardless of what level you race at.  It also means that as much as team may be a thorn in your side, you can never make assumptions.  Because you can't, ya gotta have respect for those team who work their asses off from practice to practice, week to week in gyms and on OC's and in dragon boat to get an edge over the other teams..cuz you know it's really all about the hard work and grit.

That said, isn't there any way we could do this for fun, knowing that we won't get all the circumstances right to prove the "top dawgness"?  Never mind all the perfect world stuff...wouldn't it just be fun to try?

Better pray to the DB gods tonight b4 bed time kids...lol

Actually we should make this just a fun event.  As for all the logistical stuff ... finish off with a BBQ and call it a great season.  Why I even suggested it was to give FCRCC and SIB some intense paddling before Worlds and Nationals.  I personally don't care if the rosters are exact and if truth be told ... I would just be as happy as to team up with Magnum/Pac Reach/Master's to race against FCRCC.  If you want to be the best you have to compete with the best.  I can't think a better prep for Worlds for one of the best crews in the world in FCRCC to have a good practice crew to go against them.  

This isn't for bragging  rights or anything.  

I want to get better.  How do you do that.  You go against the best!  If all teams are busy and we can't race the Harrison "Finals" then let's mix up the teams - we still all benifit.  I'm not sure if Kamini and FCRCC is game for this?  We could also change it to one of thier practice nights?  I would love to try and close the gap on FCRCC.  

Game anyone?  

We're game.  msn(u)
(though after Aug 11th, that's when Denis is back in town...otherwise he'll bitch incessantly if he misses this lol)

Yes, I'm all game for this.  :Cheers: Especially if there will be free food/beverages involved. (Okay, maybe it's abit much to ask. :lol:)

Maybe we should do a fun race and exchange half of SI:Black with half of Magnum so that each boat has half/half (and we'll try to exchange evenly even though most of magnum aren't that big... except for a couple) and see if the races are still as close?  :drool:

Pac Reach, Magnum Masters and SI Black men vs FCRCC Men ...  :twisted:

Same as above for women  :)

then something fun for a fundraiser for all teams? Just brain storming.   :upsidehead:

With less than 18 days to prep ... someone will have to go with this if it's going to happen.  Most SI Black Paddlers leave on or around August 19.  


August 13????

Again this just thinking out loud