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Title: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Backward Rowing on September 04, 2007, 07:17:27 PM Any predictions for this festival? I haven't seen the list of crews going there.
Who is running the race-side, and what kind of boats are they using? http://www.kelownadragonboatfestival.com/ http://www.maximumsports.ca/ Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: DiggerPig on September 04, 2007, 10:45:21 PM I was under the impression that Water's Edge would be running the racing side. As for boats I think they are leaning toward the Dynasty's but there is still an outside chance of the BUK's. As long as we don't have to paddle in 6/16 I will be happy.
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: zoso on September 05, 2007, 10:20:23 AM Water's Edge will not be running the water / race side of this festival. WE will be leasing out their BUK's and the other set of boats that will be used are 6/16's.
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: chuieXX on September 05, 2007, 11:36:53 AM is this true? i was under the impression that the festival would be 6/16s. if there are buk's then that'd be awesome.
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: RC Dragon on September 11, 2007, 06:26:24 AM Any word on when the Kelowna Racing Grid will be available?
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: dogpaddle on September 11, 2007, 07:28:08 AM It should be out today.
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: SeattleHotSake on September 11, 2007, 04:41:32 PM We got spare rooms in our condos (high-rise right next to the race site) for this weekend in Kelowna, Fri-Sun nights. If you are interested in sharing in with us, please let me know ASAP!
See http://www.okanaganvacationhomerentals.com/place.php?place=249 (http://www.okanaganvacationhomerentals.com/place.php?place=249) Thanks, - Zheng (Seattle Hot Sake) Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: sikamikanico on September 11, 2007, 05:10:20 PM http://www.kdbf.ca/admin/uploads/Kelowna2007Grid.pdf
race grid Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: rightarm on September 11, 2007, 10:54:33 PM That's a pretty decent field. Looks like Masters is the favourite to take it but there are a couple of teams that should push them pretty good. I see CCR has made a comeback again this year, if they build on last years showing they'll be tough. Good showing from some strong calgary crews too: Dragnum, Gaurdian, Topmade. All 3, but particularly Dragnum I'd say, have the potential to push for a top spot, if they're fielding the same crew as in calgary. And of course Sudden Impact black who've been having a strong season. I haven't followed NAVY too closely this year but they're always a good crew. It'll be interesting to see how RGL does, they've been having a really strong season. and I hear TD lightening is the "blessed with ringers" group this year (a la "Shaggin' FCRCC" in 2006)!
As of the moment the forecast is looking great for Saturday and Sunday, according to weathernetwork.com its supposed to be 24 each day with 0% POP... BUT interestingly enough, monday is supposed to be 100% POP, so... that's rather suspect. lets all cross our fingers that the nasty weather stays away until after the races are done! Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: sinkingboat on September 12, 2007, 02:11:50 AM Will Humpty and Dumpty be making an appearance in Kelowna?
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Martini on September 12, 2007, 07:41:31 AM Lets not forget River City Dragons, Portland Fire Dragons and Blu By U. They will all be tough.
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: BernMan on September 12, 2007, 09:01:20 AM Geez we might as well mention every other team then huh? :lol:
I think all teams are tough. It is just a question of how tough really. I agree that Masters of D'Zone are my top pick. The rest is up for grabs. Heck I expect SI Black, Crews Control Reunited, one of the Calgary teams and probably one of the Portland teams to be in the top 5. Sorry that I don't know which ones from Calgary or Portland are the favs but I feel there will be a good representation for all of the above. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: wanker on September 12, 2007, 10:24:48 AM The Calgary teams include CRC, Dragnum, Topmade Fusion & Guardian Dragons. There are a few others on the list as well, but I'd list these as the top local contenders. Dragnum and Guardian placed ahead of the FODB/Sudden Impact mishmash team in the A division final in Calgary, so read into that what you will (of course teams don't necessarily have all of their best paddlers at any given festival). CRC of course raced in the Crew Club division and Topmade can always be a contender depending on who is on the boat at the time - their club has a lot of paddlers.
Don't worry, we're not sending a team. :P (although I think a few of our members are going to return the favour done for us in the Vancouver TW festival, paddling for various teams as fill-ins) Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: rightarm on September 12, 2007, 12:34:21 PM Lets not forget River City Dragons, Portland Fire Dragons and Blu By U. They will all be tough. i don't think anyone is forgetting. as I recall, River city edged my crew out for 3rd in platinum last year. i only mentioned teams that i had some recent opinion on. Geez we might as well mention every other team then huh? :lol: Sorry that I don't know which ones from Calgary or Portland are the favs but I feel there will be a good representation for all of the above. which is kinda what my post was about, sharing my opinion of which calgary crew(s) will be tougher based on my experiences racing against them recently. Wanker: I could be wrong but I didn't notice CRC on the grid. Will Humpty and Dumpty be making an appearance in Kelowna? you tell us Discussion Forums, where people discuss things and share opinions. What a concept. Then again, why doesn't everyone just start making random predictions like usual. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: wanker on September 12, 2007, 01:01:32 PM Wanker: I could be wrong but I didn't notice CRC on the grid. Oops, you're right. I believe that I was mixing up who is going to SF with this festival. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Aquaman on September 12, 2007, 01:20:48 PM Wanker: I could be wrong but I didn't notice CRC on the grid. Oops, you're right. I believe that I was mixing up who is going to SF with this festival. A lot of the team was paddling in England last week and will be in San Francisco next week. Watch out for Dragnum in Kelowna! Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: sinkingboat on September 13, 2007, 02:03:25 AM Will Humpty and Dumpty be making an appearance in Kelowna? you tell us There will be 6 6/16s total. The three 'scale' version of it from DZ were shipped up today. That leaves 3 more. Given there are at least a dozen better boats to use than Humpty and Dumpty, I don't think they will be there. But I guess only the FVDBC knows. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: glowing_ice on September 13, 2007, 06:57:59 AM only 6-16 are used? are there going to be any BUK's up there?
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: dogpaddle on September 13, 2007, 08:25:45 AM www.kdbf.ca/admin/uploads/Kelowna2007RaceSheet.pdf (http://www.kdbf.ca/admin/uploads/Kelowna2007RaceSheet.pdf)
It looks like they are alternating races between the 6/16's and BUKs Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: BernMan on September 13, 2007, 08:51:36 AM Well at least we will know that the rounds with the BUK's will be fair seeing as they are all the same generation. But the rounds using the 6-16's is probably going to have some issues. But we shall see.....
Just to confirm yes there are going to be alternating rounds of BUK's and 6-16's in Kelowna. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: BernMan on September 13, 2007, 10:42:46 AM By the way does anyone know if the Colin James concert is open for all ages? In the past the 54-40 concerts were open to all ages even though there was beer served. Now that I got a couple lil ones I wanted to be sure they were allowed in. And yes I know its probably gonna be loud but we will be back far enough so not to cause any problems for the kids! :lol:
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Luke on September 13, 2007, 08:53:03 PM omg...Colin James..., missing out :(
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: rightarm on September 13, 2007, 11:22:13 PM omg...Colin James..., missing out :( are you even old enough to remember colin james in his "faux celebrity" days?Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: glowing_ice on September 14, 2007, 06:26:42 AM omg...Colin James..., missing out :( are you even old enough to remember colin james in his "faux celebrity" days?just like u asking... are you old enough to do some wine tasting?! :lol: unfortunately you have to be 19+ to wine taste in kelowna. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: jeannie on September 14, 2007, 11:13:03 AM have a great time in kelowna everyone, I wish my team was going :( But we'll be getting ready for san fran - so see you all next week!
As for this weekend, HAPPY BIRTHDAY PUPPY!!!!!!! :P Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Luke on September 14, 2007, 05:59:34 PM omg...Colin James..., missing out :( are you even old enough to remember colin james in his "faux celebrity" days?I know his songs, good enough, have a great time in kelowna everyone, I wish my team was going :( But we'll be getting ready for san fran - so see you all next week! As for this weekend, HAPPY BIRTHDAY PUPPY!!!!!!! :P what would it be? 45 birthday beats :lol:? Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Monk on September 16, 2007, 10:22:41 PM OMG Sunday was the super craziest weather ever! :shock:
It was incredibly challenging, but everyone managed to do surprisingly well. Congrats to the Mana Wahine women on their, I mean THE bling in the womens Platinum final. And thanx for helping us out when we were looking short. You are kick @ss paddlers My hat goes off to the race management for the magic they pulled off to continue the event. Less hardy souls would have shut Sundays racing down, but these guys got creative as hell to ensure that racers got the chance to race. :clap: Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Backward Rowing on September 16, 2007, 11:37:16 PM Yep, Sunday sucked . . . a near repeat of Harrison caused by mother nature. Basically, a weather front headed through the race site some 12 hours earlier than expected. A good south-west wind on a southerly race course caused inability for boats to line up. Races were delayed to about 90 minutes. 6/16 were used exclusively for a while as the BuK were too tippy in the wind. Boats were drenched and the officials changed from 6-boat heats to 2-boat heats. Cancellation of races, such as the consolation finals, so the festival could end at a decent time. Weather improved by the afternoon.
Saturday was wonderful. Hot temperatures, calm waters and efficient race organization. Sunday, the race organizers were able to adapt and still have a festival. Any case, here is a Saturday morning race, heat 12. (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/th_P1000312.jpg) (http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/?action=view¤t=P1000312.flv) 1-Myriad Maverick 2-CBC Wave Catchers 3-Sudden Impact Blue 4-RGL United 5-Team Vortex 6-Splash Test Dragons Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Backward Rowing on September 16, 2007, 11:54:50 PM Scotia Scorchers
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000333.jpg) 2-Alley Kat (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000332.jpg) 3-Team Lifescan 5-Topmade Fusion Energy 6-Riff Raft (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000331.jpg) River City Dragons (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000330.jpg) 4-RGL United 3-Sudden Impact Blue 2-CBC Wave Catchers (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000319.jpg) 4-RGL United 2-CBC Wave Catchers 5-Team Vortex 6-Splash Test Dragons (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000315.jpg) Myriad Mavericks (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000314.jpg) Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Backward Rowing on September 16, 2007, 11:58:26 PM Synergy Legacy
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000310.jpg) 2-Power Strokers 5-Ready Jet Go (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000309.jpg) Thunderstrokers (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000308.jpg) Sunday was cold (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000633.jpg) (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000634.jpg) Friday and Saturday was warm (Edmonton teams) (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000295.jpg) Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Backward Rowing on September 16, 2007, 11:59:11 PM Paddler's dance on the beach
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000624.jpg) Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Backward Rowing on September 17, 2007, 12:27:51 AM And the rest
False Creek Grandragons (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000294.jpg) Pirates (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000351.jpg) Concord Pacific Flying Dragons (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000364.jpg) River City Dragons (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000365.jpg) Red Fusion and Just Dragon Along (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000368.jpg) Richmond Dragoneers (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000374.jpg) VanCity Thunder (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000375.jpg) Scotiabank Spitfires (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000379.jpg) Alley Kat (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000385.jpg) Riff Raft (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000387.jpg) Bust'n Loose (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000389.jpg) Valley Vixens (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000390.jpg) Seventh Wave (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000391.jpg) Raunchy Rodent Dragon Boat (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000392.jpg) Lift What's Draggin (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000393.jpg) SONAR Dragon (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000394.jpg) Water Warriors (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000397.jpg) Team Eh (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000398.jpg) Hot Sake (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000400.jpg) Phat Fish Racing (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000402.jpg) Sudden Impact Black (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000407.jpg) Grand Poobahs (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000411.jpg) Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Backward Rowing on September 17, 2007, 12:35:26 AM Sistership
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000412.jpg) Team Calgary Transit (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000415.jpg) Soul Sisters (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000416.jpg) TD Lightning (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000422.jpg) RGL United (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000420.jpg) Cultus Lake Dragon Flies (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000423.jpg) CBC Wave Catchers (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000421.jpg) Pacific Reach (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000424.jpg) Draggin Riders (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000426.jpg) Fresh Off the Dragon Boat (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000432.jpg) Red Eyes Paddling (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000435.jpg) Topmade Fusion Power (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000437.jpg) Portland Fire (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000438.jpg) Blu By U (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000439.jpg) Fluid Motion (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000441.jpg) Team Lifescan (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000447.jpg) Chilliwack Crusaders (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000451.jpg) Insink (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000452.jpg) (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000453.jpg) Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Backward Rowing on September 17, 2007, 12:53:25 AM Team Uproar
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000455.jpg) Shaggin Dragons (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000459.jpg) Fire on Water (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000466.jpg) Dragon Bytes (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/P1000467.jpg) Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Backward Rowing on September 17, 2007, 01:20:02 AM Naval attack - Navy Dragon Anchors
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Title: Thank You!! Post by: cookie on September 17, 2007, 08:27:45 AM Bernie,
No matter what any ignorant, self-centered, inconsiderate paddlers say, you and the your organization did a fantastic job up at Kelowna!!! :dance: You guys were able get us racing...although everything was delayed and some races even cancelled but at least the Platinum and Diamond final races went as planned. :D I only have one tiny little issue about the weekend and that is, why did you guys not want to have anything to due with the award ceremony? I know we don't know the whole story behind your decision but it would be nice if we (the paddlers) were given a reason. The awards ceremony is what we always look forward to at the end of the festival. It was so disappointing! :think: Anyway, thank you and your crew for an awesome weekend!!! :clap: Cookie!! msn(k) Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: rightarm on September 17, 2007, 10:11:38 AM Yes, Kudos to what Bernman was referring to as "Greg Lamb & associates" for pulling off a good weekend of racing in a situation that could have gone really wrong. I think they did a tremendous job. I won't say I left 100% satisfied with the way things unfolded, but their job is to make the races as fair and as safe as possible for the racers, and they did that. They acted quickly and made sound decisions to keep the festival moving, including a full format change, that ensured all necessary races took place, all the while not compromising the safety of the participants.
I think sometimes we as paddlers, particularly those of us who feel that "competitive fire" in our guts, forget there are certain things that are beyond the control of the mere mortals who put on these events for us, and we shift the blame to them. I know I was certainly guilty of that for a while after the platinum semi yesterday... once the adrenaline stopped flowing and I'd had a chance to think things over, all was fine, but in the heat of the moment, its hard not take things personally. Mistakes were made, yes, but in the big scheme of things they are insignificant, and the organizers remained consistent and put on a quality event in spite of what mother nature threw at them. What more can we ask for really? Results (unofficial - was eyeballing it contemplating a long drive and how hungry I was) from Platinum A 1) River City Dragons 2) RGL 3) Pac Reach 2 4,5,6 in no particular order were Navy, TD and... Scotia I believe. - I'm really only certain of River City, the other two are just my educated guesses from the line I was watching. River City were the clearly dominant team of the weekend, really taking it up a notch over last year's 3rd place performance. I don't recall the order from Diamond A as the team I was cheering for came 5th or 6th (JDA) and I have a mental block on the rest. Topmade I believe was also near the bottom of that heat. I also wanted to give a special thanks to Puppy who really lended a helping hand to my crew at this festival... he is truly a classy guy and one of the biggest supporters of the dragon boat community. Cheers Mike from FODB PS - WAY TO GO RGL! even if i'm wrong about that second place finish, what a hell of a performance in that platinum final! Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Backward Rowing on September 17, 2007, 10:25:53 AM Last one....
Saturday Morning Heat 14 (http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/th_P1000343.jpg) (http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m92/gingersnaps1969/Kelowna%20Int%20Dragon%20Boat%20Festival%202007/?action=view¤t=P1000343.flv) 6 CNS Insurance RRRamming Speed 5 Uhuru 4 CCR Crews Control Reunited 3 Dragon Hearts 10th Edition 2 Dragon Bytes 1 Draggin' Riders Title: Re: Thank You!! Post by: mustbecrazy on September 17, 2007, 12:42:32 PM Quote No matter what any ignorant, self-centered, inconsiderate paddlers say, you and the your organization did a fantastic job up at Kelowna!!! :dance: Up to this point, who has said anything to the contrary?? I very much appreciate the attention given to all paddlers for safety! Weather conditions are not easily controlled but the creativity used to get people racing was excellent and provided an opportunity for those who wanted...to race! I love doing sprints and it was a great solution to a difficult scenario! As any competitive paddler would be I was frustrated by the difficulty in getting a start where all were evenly lined up. As well, I don't quite understand how some of the times were determined. Perhaps all of these things were as a result of the crazy weather... Thanks to all who worked so hard this weekend! Staff and volunteers, you rock! This was definitely a memorable event for so many reasons! Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: cookie on September 17, 2007, 01:14:11 PM Unfortunately, there were quite a few complainers overheard up in Kelowna before we left last night. :yelling:
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Backward Rowing on September 17, 2007, 01:39:30 PM As of the moment the forecast is looking great for Saturday and Sunday, according to weathernetwork.com its supposed to be 24 each day with 0% POP... BUT interestingly enough, monday is supposed to be 100% POP, so... that's rather suspect. lets all cross our fingers that the nasty weather stays away until after the races are done! I guess Environment Canada was wrong, AGAIN! Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Kerplunk on September 17, 2007, 02:39:07 PM It's a tough situation. Some of the purported complaints were likely justified...but its tough given the inclement conditions. Some of those starts were pretty dodgy on Sunday. Hopefully no teams will be discouraged from attending next year.
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: ian on September 17, 2007, 03:57:55 PM Once again , a great end of season festival ,and definitely a learning experience , I would also like to thank all the steerspeople that gave up their spare time to help out, keeping the races going , Not every team that attends has choppy waters to practice in , Tough conditions had to be answered with tough decisions , that likely did not please everyone, but it is a water sport !!and safety has to be #1 priority, and i don't think any boat lost its crew, so good job everyone
BTW whats the price of scrap in kelowna ? how many teams had tents etc. wrecked. 8am on the Sunday the paddlers village looked a bit like a battlefield . Now who wants to go to Hawaii ??? even bigger waves there!!!! Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Scaly on September 17, 2007, 05:40:18 PM Scaly Justice thanks the 12 paddlers who pitched in and signed up to our seriously deficient roster on Friday and on Saturday morning.
A HUGE thanks goes out to: Team Draco from Calgary Sagging Dragons from Vancouver Women on Fire from Kelowna Deep Cove Perfect Catch THANKS!! Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: harshness on September 17, 2007, 05:42:48 PM Kelowna, well I was going to bitch about all these things about what happened this weekend to my team but someone told me to take a couple of days to sit and reflect and then post so I did. Didn't work,but one thing I have to say is that all the years I've been paddling I never saw any weather like that before.Nobody saw that coming so I am not mad anymore and Congrats to the teams who won,even though I'm still mad but that's racing.
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Waterbunny on September 17, 2007, 06:21:48 PM I had to leave a little early to go home, any idea when all the final official results will be posted?
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: brainiac on September 17, 2007, 06:24:03 PM My hat is off to the organizers who made the right decisions at the right times to save the festival in the face of extraordinary conditions. Sure some minor mistakes were made as they improvised on Sunday but at least every team got to race a semi-final and all (or almost all) the finals were held, with only the consolation finals getting cut. Maybe some teams had "better" starts than others but those are the breaks when the weather isn't cooperating. Would you rather spend 30 minutes trying to line up the boats perfectly? I was just glad to have the opportunity to race.
I would also like to add my thanks to the volunteer steerspeople, especially the guy from TD Lightning who steered our boat. We were in the heat where the race officials decided to put the BUKs back in action. The wind had dropped but things were still pretty choppy. We were right heavy and had a couple of nice waves come over the side. For a moment I thought I was paddling OC, not DB. Our steersman must have had nerves of steel and great balance to deal with the pitch and yaw. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: J on September 17, 2007, 08:26:43 PM Jason (TD Lightning) is awesome!!! He's steered for us (BluByU) many times... I can honestly say I'd rather have him steering our boat than myself!!!
Hat's off you you Jason!!! Cheers, J Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: BernMan on September 17, 2007, 09:19:21 PM As one of the race management team members I too have nothing but good things to say to people like Jason (aka Straightline) for steering for not only their own crews but also for lots of other steers people who felt they probably should not be out on the water in rougher than normal conditions. There were about 8 to 10 steerspeople from other crews that volunteered and helped steer for other teams. For example I personally wanted to thank the Eye of the Dragon dragon boat racing team's own steersperson, whose name escapes me. He steered for my crew as well because my crew's own steersperson felt he should not be out there due to the weather conditions. And he did an awesome job! Phat Phish Racing was very much appreciative of his steering especially during the semi finals. In the end the weather had improved somewhat. We went back with our original steersperson to steer in the finals and that worked out in the end as well. But we would not have been able to make it to the finals if not for the volunteer steerspeople that helped all the crews out! Way to goooo to all the volunteer steerspeople!
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: BernMan on September 17, 2007, 09:29:04 PM Thank you Cookie and Rightarm and all others who have personally come up to me to say nice things about what we did as a race management team. We do try to make things as safe as possible. And at the same time realize that we all came to Kelowna to race. Safety was never going to take a back seat as far as we are concerned. And thank you to all of you who appreciated how things were decided/came to be/were explained when we stated our position and I truly thank you for that understanding. I personally believe all those who questioned results/placings understood why they were done and accepted them as they were in the end. It was by far the most challenging for me as a race official in all the races I have been involved in, in all the years I have been involved in DB race management. And I feel you were all equally appreciative considering what we had to deal with.
Once again thank you all for being understanding and for putting yourselves in our "shoes" in accepting things as they came to be. I believe you understood our positions as race officials once they were explained considering all that we had to endure. Bernie Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: StraightLine on September 17, 2007, 09:34:38 PM I would also like to add my thanks to the volunteer steerspeople, especially the guy from TD Lightning who steered our boat. We were in the heat where the race officials decided to put the BUKs back in action. The wind had dropped but things were still pretty choppy. We were right heavy and had a couple of nice waves come over the side. For a moment I thought I was paddling OC, not DB. Our steersman must have had nerves of steel and great balance to deal with the pitch and yaw. Jason (TD Lightning) is awesome!!! He's steered for us (BluByU) many times... I can honestly say I'd rather have him steering our boat than myself!!! I think I'm going to hide now.... :oops: Sunday was a tough day for racing and I'm certainly glad I wasn't one of the race officials. Water conditions ranged from "entertaining" to "smooth as glass" to "what am I doing out here?" and were constantly changing which made for difficult decisions regarding the day's schedule. TD had some of the best water conditions I saw during the semi-final round in the Platinum Semi Final 2, but fifteen minutes later, the conditions were just brutal for the women's Platinum final. As one of the volunteer steers people Sunday morning, I would like to thank all of the teams that allowed me to come onto their boats and take them out for their race. I know from experience that it is not easy having a steers person you're not familiar with taking your team out to race especially in the challenging conditions we faced. StraightLine. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: kryssee on September 17, 2007, 09:50:16 PM I have several hundred of pictures from Kelowna, however I HAD to post these. I don't know the name of the team, but it was Heat 1 on Sat. morning, and I believe they were racing the Shaggin' Dragons. As they were paddling by, I heard someone give a yell, and next thing I knew, they were paddling with the handles of their paddles! Funniest thing I saw all day! Thanks for the entertainment!
(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd172/kristascamera/Kelowna2007117.jpg) (http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd172/kristascamera/Kelowna2007116.jpg) Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: rightarm on September 17, 2007, 10:12:06 PM I have several hundred of pictures from Kelowna, however I HAD to post these. I don't know the name of the team, but it was Heat 1 on Sat. morning, and I believe they were racing the Shaggin' Dragons. As they were paddling by, I heard someone give a yell, and next thing I knew, they were paddling with the handles of their paddles! Funniest thing I saw all day! Thanks for the entertainment! hehe I was hoping someone would catch that! That's FODB, but all credit goes to Puppy for the idea. What you don't see in the pic is that this is just the backhalf doing that stroke, we decided we wanted to make the front half work a little harder :lol: :twisted: :angel: Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: cruiser on September 17, 2007, 10:14:37 PM Although it was disappointing not to be able to have two races on Sunday...it could have been worse and I am thankful to at least have had one. It was an awesome race and quite a wild ride..the whole team thought it was a blast ...thank you to Kelly (I am pretty sure that was his name) who steered for us (WOW- Women on Water)....he did a fantastic job and really encouraged us...we all appreciated it!
Hats off to everyone that went out there race after race to help out! In all my years of being at the festival this was the first I have ever seen this happen....and everyone made the best of it. So thanks! Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: kryssee on September 17, 2007, 10:39:26 PM Quote hehe I was hoping someone would catch that! That's FODB, but all credit goes to Puppy for the idea. What you don't see in the pic is that this is just the backhalf doing that stroke, we decided we wanted to make the front half work a little harder Well..I did notice that the front half seemed oblivious to the shenanigans..lol Which is why I cut them outta the photo! HAHA Maybe I shoulda done both close up and full boat.. :lol: Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Nestah14 on September 17, 2007, 11:20:39 PM Hey Bernie,
Eye of the Dragon's steersperson is named Harvey. We love our Harvey. Apparently Sean of Fluid Motion also helped out quite a bit with steering. Along with Jason from TD, way to go our Vancouver steering triumvirate, fine ambassadors for DZ/False Creek. Cheers, Nestah As one of the race management team members I too have nothing but good things to say to people like Jason (aka Straightline) for steering for not only their own crews but also for lots of other steers people who felt they probably should not be out on the water in rougher than normal conditions. There were about 8 to 10 steerspeople from other crews that volunteered and helped steer for other teams. For example I personally wanted to thank the Eye of the Dragon dragon boat racing team's own steersperson, whose name escapes me. He steered for my crew as well because my crew's own steersperson felt he should not be out there due to the weather conditions. And he did an awesome job! Phat Phish Racing was very much appreciative of his steering especially during the semi finals. In the end the weather had improved somewhat. We went back with our original steersperson to steer in the finals and that worked out in the end as well. But we would not have been able to make it to the finals if not for the volunteer steerspeople that helped all the crews out! Way to goooo to all the volunteer steerspeople! Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: kryssee on September 18, 2007, 04:00:21 AM Quote Diamond Final A 1. Portland Fire Dragons - 2:20.490 2. Dragon Hearts 10th Edition - 2:20:750 3. Guardian Dragons - 2:22.440 4. Superslim Phat Phish Racing - 2:25.340 5. Just Dragon Along - 2:26.400 6. Topmade Fusion Power - 2:27.430 Are you sure those times are right?? Didn't they use the times from the semi finals as the finals? At that point we were racing a 250m course, so they'd be in the low 1 min. range..or so I thought.. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: StraightLine on September 18, 2007, 06:28:05 AM Are you sure those times are right?? Didn't they use the times from the semi finals as the finals? At that point we were racing a 250m course, so they'd be in the low 1 min. range..or so I thought.. Both the Diamond A and Platinum A finals were 500m races with all six boats racing together. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: wanker on September 18, 2007, 06:56:20 AM Scaly Justice thanks the 12 paddlers who pitched in and signed up to our seriously deficient roster on Friday and on Saturday morning. We were just happy to be able to paddle in another festival - the local water will probably freeze on us pretty soon. Anyways, we all enjoyed the festivities. Thanks for putting up with us. :)A HUGE thanks goes out to: Team Draco from Calgary Sagging Dragons from Vancouver Women on Fire from Kelowna Deep Cove Perfect Catch THANKS!! Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: falkyre on September 18, 2007, 08:13:36 AM Hi all,
as a member of the River City Dragons team, I'd really like to thank Pacific Reach for doing the trophy ceremony for the Platinum Division A final. That was all class and I was very impressed with it. Congrats to all the teams that raced on the weekend and those that were able to get a final in. It's too bad the weather was so goofy on Sunday but I am glad that the races were decided on the water and not by a mathematical formula for best times. Sean Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: BernMan on September 18, 2007, 09:09:06 AM Quote Diamond Final A 1. Portland Fire Dragons - 2:20.490 2. Dragon Hearts 10th Edition - 2:20:750 3. Guardian Dragons - 2:22.440 4. Superslim Phat Phish Racing - 2:25.340 5. Just Dragon Along - 2:26.400 6. Topmade Fusion Power - 2:27.430 Are you sure those times are right?? Didn't they use the times from the semi finals as the finals? At that point we were racing a 250m course, so they'd be in the low 1 min. range..or so I thought.. Kryssee the Diamond and Platinum "A" finals did go off in the end as the weather did improve by 4pm. So those are the correct times as they did race the 500 meters at the end of the day. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: falkyre on September 18, 2007, 09:20:11 AM Quote Diamond Final A 1. Portland Fire Dragons - 2:20.490 2. Dragon Hearts 10th Edition - 2:20:750 3. Guardian Dragons - 2:22.440 4. Superslim Phat Phish Racing - 2:25.340 5. Just Dragon Along - 2:26.400 6. Topmade Fusion Power - 2:27.430 Are you sure those times are right?? Didn't they use the times from the semi finals as the finals? At that point we were racing a 250m course, so they'd be in the low 1 min. range..or so I thought.. Kryssee the Diamond and Platinum "A" finals did go off in the end as the weather did improve by 4pm. So those are the correct times as they did race the 500 meters at the end of the day. Compared to the times on Saturday, the 500m times on Sunday were quite a bit slower due to the strong headwind we raced into compared to Saturday. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: nakano on September 18, 2007, 12:49:39 PM Platinum Final A
1 River City Dragons 2:17.08 2 RGL United 2:19.66 3 Pacific Reach 2 2:20.17 4 Navy Dragon Anchors 2:20.74 5 TD Lightning 2:21.32 6 Scotiabank Dragons 2:23.47 Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: KarenRobertsPDX on September 18, 2007, 01:19:10 PM With all the other issues going on Sunday, it seems a moot point to point out a problem with the original grid for Saturday. Dragnum should have been seeded in the event instead of lane 3. They were the 4th seed at the end of Saturday.
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Martini on September 18, 2007, 01:25:42 PM With all the other issues going on Sunday, it seems a moot point to point out a problem with the original grid for Saturday. Dragnum should have been seeded in the event instead of lane 3. They were the 4th seed at the end of Saturday. Not sure I understand what you mean. :? Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: adbf on September 18, 2007, 01:45:04 PM With all the other issues going on Sunday, it seems a moot point to point out a problem with the original grid for Saturday. Dragnum should have been seeded in the event instead of lane 3. They were the 4th seed at the end of Saturday. We could say that of any team that ended up higher than the rank they were given prior to the festival. It is easy to say "they should have been ranked higher" after the fact :). JMO Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: sinkingboat on September 18, 2007, 01:46:00 PM With such a wide open field for Diamond/Platinum, the seeding was accurate for the most part. Only teams that won both races on Saturday made it into Platinum. All teams that won one race on Saturday medaled in Diamond on Sunday. The Portland Fire Dragons, who were seeded to win both races on Saturday but didn't, ended up winning Diamond. I can't say the seeding could have been done any better given the circumstances.
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: kryssee on September 18, 2007, 03:57:35 PM Quote Both the Diamond A and Platinum A finals were 500m races with all six boats racing together. Thanks! lol I suppose I shoulda stuck around till the end.. :lol: Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: rb on September 18, 2007, 04:45:44 PM What happened to Masters of D'Zone and Sudden Impact ? I would have predicted them both to be top 3. How did the Platinum semis go?
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: rightarm on September 18, 2007, 05:34:33 PM What happened to Masters of D'Zone and Sudden Impact ? I would have predicted them both to be top 3. How did the Platinum semis go? Masters went 4th in platinum semi 1 (in lane 5 next to us) thus not advancing. The results of that race are still, and always will be, up in the air... I'm sure they believe they did better than the results reflected (not that I want to speak for them but I know a protest was launched), as did my team. In the end, it doesn't matter, those are the results and they stood. Keeping that in mind, anyone that doubted the 3 teams who made it through to the final from that heat would have been wrong, River City and RGL and PR2 went 1 2 and 3 respectively and earned it well in a tough heat against some pretty crazy conditions. Not to say that masters couldn't have done better, they were ranked 3rd after day 1. But, they were racing a different roster than that which was at the CCC's due to some of the paddlers being at the worlds... how much of a difference it made is hard to tell as an outsider, but i would suspect things would have been significantly different based on what we saw in Calgary. The team that was consistent in posting times at the top of the ladder throughout the weekend was River City... I believe their 2nd heat on saturday they posted a 2:01 and Masters had the next closest time at 2:05 (we came in around 4th or 5th i believe with 2:07) Sudden Impact I believe went 4th in Platinum semi 2, but i was a little preoccupied at that moment and may have that wrong. Standings after Saturday were as follows (semi heats in brackets) 1st - River City Dragons (1) 2nd - NAVY (2) 3rd - Masters of D'zone (1) 4th - Dragnum (2) 5th - Pac Reach 2 (1) 6th - Sudden Impact Black (2) 7th - Fresh off the Dragon Boat (1) 8th - Crews Control Reunited (2) 9th - RGL (1) 10th - TD Lightening (2) 11th - Blu-by-u (1) 12th - Scotia (2) So really, when you look at that and given the format change on sunday, its not a far stretch to say things ended up ROUGHLY where they should have. Again, a stellar effort by RGL in the final takes them from 9th to 2nd... that's impressive. As for if Dragnum was seeded improperly... yeah sure they were. did it make a bit of difference? nope. they made it to platinum and didn't get past the semis. I for one am not surprised as the 250m format does not tend to favor the calgary teams... after having raced against them for the past two seasons, they are slower on the starts and very strong on the finishes, but that is in the 500 meter distance... Last month in Calgary we were owning the 200m distance but both Dragnum and Gaurdian got us on the 500m in the end, and its all about their killer, LONG finishes. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Edm River Guy on September 18, 2007, 05:38:47 PM Hi, I would like to Thank the many volunteers that helped run this festival ! With out you guys, the festival would not have been as good as it was .
Although we were jaded in jade division, the fun we had outweighed our ranking ! We had a blast and are already looking forward to next year ! Paddles Up ! Team UHURU from Edmonton ! Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: CCR-MGR on September 18, 2007, 05:52:50 PM I may be out of place here, but from what i as told the start and finish lines were, lined up for 500 meters. So when they went to 250 meters no one bothered to check to see if the half-way markers were lined up. (in fact they were not, they were out as much as ten meters and of course who would have thought to even consider checking. But in actual fact the inside lanes were much shorter. I'm willing to bet dimes to dollars that lanes 1,2 & 3 were the teams that advance to the finals.
Anyways thats racing.. !! But i believe we all agreed to the format that the boys had initiated, so that the race could contiue. My hats off and kudos to the organisers and race officials for a job well done. Excellent JOB!!!! At least we learned yet another valueable lesson to better future festivals. Thanks again P.S. we will be back next year for revenge. hahah Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: rightarm on September 18, 2007, 06:03:53 PM I may be out of place here, but from what i as told the start and finish lines were, lined up for 500 meters. So when they went to 250 meters no one bothered to check to see if the half-way markers were lined up. (in fact they were not, they were out as much as ten meters and of course who would have thought to even consider checking. But in actual fact the inside lanes were much shorter. I'm willing to bet dimes to dollars that lanes 1,2 & 3 were the teams that advance to the finals. there is some merit to what you're suggesting... Semi One (Lane - Team - * = advancement) 1 - Blu by U - 106.xx (sorry, can't read my own writing) 2 - RGL (*) - 103.15 3 - PR2 (*) - 103.65 4 - RCD (*) - 104.16 5 - Masters - 104.59 6 - FODB - 106.58 Semi Two (no times) 1 - Scotia (*) 2 - TD (*) 3 - SI Black 4 - NAVY (*) 5 - Dragnum 6 - CCR It definitely does tend to show that the outer lane teams did not fare as well... but regardless, its over. Again, the teams that won the final (from heat one anyway) showed in their performance why they got there... Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: nakano on September 18, 2007, 07:29:26 PM I may be out of place here, but from what i as told the start and finish lines were, lined up for 500 meters. So when they went to 250 meters no one bothered to check to see if the half-way markers were lined up. (in fact they were not, they were out as much as ten meters and of course who would have thought to even consider checking. But in actual fact the inside lanes were much shorter. I'm willing to bet dimes to dollars that lanes 1,2 & 3 were the teams that advance to the finals. there is some merit to what you're suggesting... Semi One (Lane - Team - * = advancement) 1 - Blu by U - 106.xx (sorry, can't read my own writing) 2 - RGL (*) - 103.15 3 - PR2 (*) - 103.65 4 - RCD (*) - 104.16 5 - Masters - 104.59 6 - FODB - 106.58 Semi Two (no times) 1 - Scotia (*) 2 - TD (*) 3 - SI Black 4 - NAVY (*) 5 - Dragnum 6 - CCR It definitely does tend to show that the outer lane teams did not fare as well... but regardless, its over. Again, the teams that won the final (from heat one anyway) showed in their performance why they got there... A little help for rightarm :) Platinum Semi 1 (Buk) 1. RGL United (Lane 2) 1:03.150 2. Pacific Reach 2 (Lane 3) 1:03.650 3. River City Dragons (Lane 4) 1:04.160 4. Masters of D'Zone (Lane 5)1:04.590 5. Blu By U (Lane 1)1:06.080 6. Fresh Off the Dragonboat (Lane 6) 1:06.580 Platinum Semi 2 (6/16) 1. TD Lightning (Lane 2) 1:04.860 2. Navy Dragon Anchors (Lane 4) 1:05.510 3. Scotiabank Dragons (Lane 1) 1:05.890 4. Sudden Impact Black (Lane 3) 1:05.970 5. Dragnum (Lane 5) 1:07.280 6. CCR Crews Control Reunited (Lane 6) 1:07.600 Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: kms on September 18, 2007, 07:45:24 PM Here are the times and lanes # for the semi's in the Diamond Division. (hope i could read my writing). I believe each semi had 2 heats of 3. In the Semi 2, there was a rerace between PPR, Synergy, and Shaggin. This may have affected their times.
Semi 1 (I believe Buk boats were used) 1. Guardian Dragons (Lane 4) 1:05.08 2. Portland Fire Dragons (Lane 5) 1:06.62 3. Topmade (Lane 3) 1:08.24 4. Splash Test (Lane 2) 1:08.77 5. TCC (Lane 1) 1:09.65 6. EDBRC (Lane 6) 1:10.15 Semi 2 (6/16 boats) 1. Dragon Hearts 10th Edition (Lane 4) 1:03.78 2. Phat Phish Racing (Lane 2) 1:04.93 3. JDA (Lane 5) 1:05.38 4. Synergy Legacy (Lane 3) 1:05.65 5. Fluid Motion (Lane 1) 1:06.02 6. Shaggin Dragons (Lane 6) 1:07.56 Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Martini on September 18, 2007, 08:37:31 PM What happened to Masters of D'Zone and Sudden Impact ? I would have predicted them both to be top 3. How did the Platinum semis go? Masters went 4th in platinum semi 1 (in lane 5 next to us) thus not advancing. The results of that race are still, and always will be, up in the air... I'm sure they believe they did better than the results reflected (not that I want to speak for them but I know a protest was launched), as did my team. In the end, it doesn't matter, those are the results and they stood. Keeping that in mind, anyone that doubted the 3 teams who made it through to the final from that heat would have been wrong, River City and RGL and PR2 went 1 2 and 3 respectively and earned it well in a tough heat against some pretty crazy conditions. Not to say that masters couldn't have done better, they were ranked 3rd after day 1. But, they were racing a different roster than that which was at the CCC's due to some of the paddlers being at the worlds... how much of a difference it made is hard to tell as an outsider, but i would suspect things would have been significantly different based on what we saw in Calgary. The team that was consistent in posting times at the top of the ladder throughout the weekend was River City... I believe their 2nd heat on saturday they posted a 2:01 and Masters had the next closest time at 2:05 (we came in around 4th or 5th i believe with 2:07) Sudden Impact I believe went 4th in Platinum semi 2, but i was a little preoccupied at that moment and may have that wrong. Standings after Saturday were as follows (semi heats in brackets) 1st - River City Dragons (1) 2nd - NAVY (2) 3rd - Masters of D'zone (1) 4th - Dragnum (2) 5th - Pac Reach 2 (1) 6th - Sudden Impact Black (2) 7th - Fresh off the Dragon Boat (1) 8th - Crews Control Reunited (2) 9th - RGL (1) 10th - TD Lightening (2) 11th - Blu-by-u (1) 12th - Scotia (2) So really, when you look at that and given the format change on sunday, its not a far stretch to say things ended up ROUGHLY where they should have. Again, a stellar effort by RGL in the final takes them from 9th to 2nd... that's impressive. As for if Dragnum was seeded improperly... yeah sure they were. did it make a bit of difference? nope. they made it to platinum and didn't get past the semis. I for one am not surprised as the 250m format does not tend to favor the calgary teams... after having raced against them for the past two seasons, they are slower on the starts and very strong on the finishes, but that is in the 500 meter distance... Last month in Calgary we were owning the 200m distance but both Dragnum and Gaurdian got us on the 500m in the end, and its all about their killer, LONG finishes. I'm sorry but I can not let that last remark pass without weighing in. The fact is Dragnum did just fine in the 200 or 250 in its semi on the weekend. The sad thing is this was not reflected in the "official" results. Ours was not the only team to experience this. I know the conditions were poor for most of Sunday but when they ran the Platinum semis the conditions were as good as they had been all weekend. I really would have thought that a greater effort would have been put into ensuring that the premier division semis were run properly. Nuff said. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: mustbecrazy on September 18, 2007, 09:04:15 PM Platinum Semi 2 (6/16)
1. TD Lightning (Lane 2) 1:04.860 2. Navy Dragon Anchors (Lane 4) 1:05.510 3. Scotiabank Dragons (Lane 1) 1:05.890 4. Sudden Impact Black (Lane 3) 1:05.970 5. Dragnum (Lane 5) 1:07.280 6. CCR Crews Control Reunited (Lane 6) 1:07.600 I couldn't agree more with the above post. In this semi, S.I. was significantly ahead of TD crossing the line ( half a boat...) but they were listed as first place. How does that happen??? Tried to file a protest but to no avail. That's racing, I guess......... Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: spark10 on September 18, 2007, 09:24:47 PM This is my first and probably last time posting on this website. I've crept the forum occasionally but never really had anything to say until today. I paddle for team LifeScan. At this weekend's festival, our most notable performance would have been on day 1, race 2, where we made a sharp left and took a 'slight' detour to the finish line:) Does this ring a bell to anyone?
Anyways, I've been paddling for 8 years but oddly enough, I still consider myself a novice, a point made alarmingly obvious on Sunday when mother nature had a little tantrum and wreaked havoc on the races. The activity that ensued with the 250m races, the rolling starts, the fill-in steerers etc., was way too much stimulation for me. I can't claim to understand the reasons why things were done the way they were but without much behind-the-scenes knowledge, I assume the organizers did everything possible to make the remainder of the event as safe and fair as possible. My post isn't about how the organizers performed. It's really just a thank you & shout out to Team Uhuru, a team we never really paid attention to (sorry) until we raced them on Sunday morning. At the risk of making this posting longer, I'll forego the details but will say that Uhuru stuck up for team LifeScan and without words, encouraged us to stand up for what we believed in. Without knowing much about the members of Team Uhuru, my first impression is that their spirit of competition is fierce but their integrity is fiercer. To any members of Uhuru who are reading this: Don't be surprised if you get a few winks & smiles from members of our team at the next festival. Don't worry, we're not creepy (not really). You're a class act. We hope to see you at the Alcan festival next year. And you better bring it cuz it's on! P.S. If you want to see incriminating photos of your team in the jacuzzi which we took from our suite (seriously, we're really not creepy people), you can respond back to this post and let me know where you want photos sent. Negatives will remain with us:) (again, we're really not creepy people). Thanks again from Team LifeScan. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: nakano on September 18, 2007, 09:35:16 PM Like usual for Kelowna, finish line pix for Sat.
Not all races have pix available. http://www.kelownadragonboatfestival.com/results/2007/MixedR1/mixed_r1_p2.shtml (http://www.kelownadragonboatfestival.com/results/2007/MixedR1/mixed_r1_p2.shtml) Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: StraightLine on September 18, 2007, 09:59:19 PM I may be out of place here, but from what i as told the start and finish lines were, lined up for 500 meters. So when they went to 250 meters no one bothered to check to see if the half-way markers were lined up. (in fact they were not, they were out as much as ten meters and of course who would have thought to even consider checking. But in actual fact the inside lanes were much shorter. I'm willing to bet dimes to dollars that lanes 1,2 & 3 were the teams that advance to the finals. there is some merit to what you're suggesting... Semi One (Lane - Team - * = advancement) 1 - Blu by U - 106.xx (sorry, can't read my own writing) 2 - RGL (*) - 103.15 3 - PR2 (*) - 103.65 4 - RCD (*) - 104.16 5 - Masters - 104.59 6 - FODB - 106.58 Semi Two (no times) 1 - Scotia (*) 2 - TD (*) 3 - SI Black 4 - NAVY (*) 5 - Dragnum 6 - CCR It definitely does tend to show that the outer lane teams did not fare as well... but regardless, its over. Again, the teams that won the final (from heat one anyway) showed in their performance why they got there... Except for one minor problem, we really weren't paying too much attention to lane numbers when we were lining up for the 250m races. It was a case of getting your boat to the line and it didn't matter what lane you were in. It may be (and quite probably was) the case that the 250m start line was out of whack, but teams were also starting in lane 5 or 6 and ending up in 3 or 4 by the end of the race due to wind and wave action. I don't recall having boats affected as much when I was starting in lanes 2-4. For the most part, I tried to avoid lining a boat up in lane 1 because it was too much of a fight trying to keep the boat within the course boundaries. StraightLine. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Ronnie on September 18, 2007, 10:01:45 PM Platinum Semi 2 (6/16) 1. TD Lightning (Lane 2) 1:04.860 2. Navy Dragon Anchors (Lane 4) 1:05.510 3. Scotiabank Dragons (Lane 1) 1:05.890 4. Sudden Impact Black (Lane 3) 1:05.970 5. Dragnum (Lane 5) 1:07.280 6. CCR Crews Control Reunited (Lane 6) 1:07.600 This is not entirely accurate. We had three boats per heat for Semi 2. I can only comment on our heat. It was TD Lighting in Lane 1/2 , Sudden Impact in Lane 3/4 and CCR in Lane 5/6. I thought we were first or second when we crossed the finish line by where I was (caller's POV). The results said otherwise. However, the River City Dragons definitely deserved their win. They kicked butt all weekend. But isn't it strange that they were in Lane 1 in the final race!?! Shouldn't a strong team like them be in Lane 3 or 4? Hmm ... Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: sinkingboat on September 18, 2007, 10:13:36 PM So why do we see the lane bias for the Platinum semis and not the Diamond semis?
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: rightarm on September 18, 2007, 10:31:58 PM I'm sorry but I can not let that last remark pass without weighing in. The fact is Dragnum did just fine in the 200 or 250 in its semi on the weekend. The sad thing is this was not reflected in the "official" results. Ours was not the only team to experience this. I know the conditions were poor for most of Sunday but when they ran the Platinum semis the conditions were as good as they had been all weekend. I really would have thought that a greater effort would have been put into ensuring that the premier division semis were run properly. Nuff said. Martini, i meant no offense by my remark, just in observation of Dragnum, and of other calgary teams like Guardian, Crew Yahoo, etc, I notice that the starts most BC teams tend to favor will lead to a quicker jump in hull-speed, but that your crews seem to be able to sustain higher velocity over a greater distance, and generally have extremely strong finishes (much more so than a lot of similarly skilled BC crews)... but then that's just my opinion. I won't deny that we too felt the results were inaccurate. Actually I know they were. My team was on the short end of the stick, sounds like yours was as well. Its unfortunate particularly for you guys as I think the festivals only benefit from having strong teams from outside the region, like Dragnum (and Guardian), attending... Without you guys, and River City Dragons, the competition at this festival would have been significantly diluted. So why do we see the lane bias for the Platinum semis and not the Diamond semis? Good question. So far it seems mostly platinum racers are weighing in and of course none of us (i assume) would have been paying much attention to the diamond semis since we were warming up / marshalling / etc while they were running. Its simply a theory, one which the results seem to support in the case of the platinum race. If there is one thing that can be said about Sunday, it is that conditions were not at all consistent from race to race, and when that happens a lot of other factors can be influenced as well. Anyways... Enough with Kelowna, off to San-fran. See some of you there! Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: sinkingboat on September 19, 2007, 12:42:58 AM So why do we see the lane bias for the Platinum semis and not the Diamond semis? Good question. So far it seems mostly platinum racers are weighing in and of course none of us (i assume) would have been paying much attention to the diamond semis since we were warming up / marshalling / etc while they were running. Its simply a theory, one which the results seem to support in the case of the platinum race. If there is one thing that can be said about Sunday, it is that conditions were not at all consistent from race to race, and when that happens a lot of other factors can be influenced as well. It is a simple theory but many people feel that it is the truth. It is hard to argue with a feeling since feelings are not objective. Unfortunately, we have only 2 complete sets of data (diamond and platinum) and the results seem to be conflicting. 50% (3/6) of platinum favourites made the final whereas 83% (5/6) of the diamond favourites made the final. Would have been good to have some more data points. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: falkyre on September 19, 2007, 05:57:12 AM This is not entirely accurate. We had three boats per heat for Semi 2. I can only comment on our heat. It was TD Lighting in Lane 1/2 , Sudden Impact in Lane 3/4 and CCR in Lane 5/6. I thought we were first or second when we crossed the finish line by where I was (caller's POV). The results said otherwise. However, the River City Dragons definitely deserved their win. They kicked butt all weekend. But isn't it strange that they were in Lane 1 in the final race!?! Shouldn't a strong team like them be in Lane 3 or 4? Hmm ... As a member of RCD I can tell you why we were in lane one. We aren't a sprint team and the seeding for the finals was based on the 250m sprint. In fact the first time we have seriously raced a sprint was in Calgary at nationals. We practice for more the longer races and tend to do way better in the finish. I was worried about the 250m and am glad we raced a 500m in the final. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Martini on September 19, 2007, 07:03:36 AM I'm sorry but I can not let that last remark pass without weighing in. The fact is Dragnum did just fine in the 200 or 250 in its semi on the weekend. The sad thing is this was not reflected in the "official" results. Ours was not the only team to experience this. I know the conditions were poor for most of Sunday but when they ran the Platinum semis the conditions were as good as they had been all weekend. I really would have thought that a greater effort would have been put into ensuring that the premier division semis were run properly. Nuff said. Martini, i meant no offense by my remark, just in observation of Dragnum, and of other calgary teams like Guardian, Crew Yahoo, etc, I notice that the starts most BC teams tend to favor will lead to a quicker jump in hull-speed, but that your crews seem to be able to sustain higher velocity over a greater distance, and generally have extremely strong finishes (much more so than a lot of similarly skilled BC crews)... but then that's just my opinion. I won't deny that we too felt the results were inaccurate. Actually I know they were. My team was on the short end of the stick, sounds like yours was as well. Its unfortunate particularly for you guys as I think the festivals only benefit from having strong teams from outside the region, like Dragnum (and Guardian), attending... Without you guys, and River City Dragons, the competition at this festival would have been significantly diluted. No offense taken - Its just that we did do well in the 250. Oh well cest la vive, see you in San Fran! :D Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Edm River Guy on September 19, 2007, 08:12:25 AM To Spark10 on team lifescan. Thank you for your kind words. Our team believes in fairness and integrity. Your team in our minds, is the winning team and congradulations !! To the team that won the whole Jade division...BAD CARMA...........!! LOL, Anyway, we had a great time and look forward to seeing you next year ! Team Uhuru
Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: DiggerPig on September 19, 2007, 06:04:00 PM I'm bitter msn(:@) and angry :x ... Then again what else is new ...
Time to get ready for next year ... This is no slight on anyone ... Weather happens. Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: falkyre on September 19, 2007, 08:08:10 PM Hey if anyone would like to see a video of the final (with it being a little bit more focused on the River City Dragons), I've posted it up on youtube. Or you can reach it here:
http://members.rivercitydragons.ca/thefinal Sean Title: Re: Kelowna Dragon Boat Festival 2007 Post by: Aarsace on September 19, 2007, 10:43:38 PM Here are the times and lanes # for the semi's in the Diamond Division. (hope i could read my writing). I believe each semi had 2 heats of 3. In the Semi 2, there was a rerace between PPR, Synergy, and Shaggin. This may have affected their times. Semi 1 (I believe Buk boats were used) 1. Guardian Dragons (Lane 4) 1:05.08 2. Portland Fire Dragons (Lane 5) 1:06.62 3. Topmade (Lane 3) 1:08.24 4. Splash Test (Lane 2) 1:08.77 5. TCC (Lane 1) 1:09.65 6. EDBRC (Lane 6) 1:10.15 Semi 2 (6/16 boats) 1. Dragon Hearts 10th Edition (Lane 4) 1:03.78 2. Phat Phish Racing (Lane 2) 1:04.93 3. JDA (Lane 5) 1:05.38 4. Synergy Legacy (Lane 3) 1:05.65 5. Fluid Motion (Lane 1) 1:06.02 6. Shaggin Dragons (Lane 6) 1:07.56 Thanks for pointing out the re-race kms. It was a pretty rough weekend for Synergy Legacy. Lost first in our first race to TDL by 0.01 (2nd), edged out for first in our second race by less than 1 second again (2nd), and then our third race... my god we rocked our first 250m time trial but had to re-race immediately. It definitely affected Legacy, Phat Phish, and Shaggin. Being the semi-finals, we obviously gave it everything we had in our first sprint. The worst part was that we got the official answer relayed back to the tent, and it was because... they didn't start the timer!!!! Heading to '07 Kelowna we didn't expect much, having much lighter training than for Alcan, but still... felt kinda megh about the results. All in all I must say that the organizers did a great job in keeping the races alive when the weather hit though. Accuracy in results weren't perfect but yeah, it happens. Until next year! |